Mace?

[Sacc]

Speciffically the "golf ball" mace. Are there any units that use one? If not, does anyone know why? It'd be a pretty cool animation. And would be really cool if tw2 used ragdoll physics.

Pretty sure I've seen this style


But not this one

[Antissa]

No units in M2TW uses the Morning Star apparently. The first picture looks familiar though, I'm sure some units weild them.

[Redleg]

No units in M2TW uses the Morning Star apparently. The first picture looks familiar though, I'm sure some units weild them.

A morningstar is a spiked mace, the second one is a flail and you're right no units in M2TW use the flail

[masterbaker]

The mace seems very underused in the game. If I'm correct it gave common soldiers the ability to pierce through more heavily armoured enemies - like dismounted knights.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

English Knights, Armored Clergy and Quapukulu are using maces as their secondary weapon.

[Pyrebound]

Yes, but they are maces like this:

http://www.medieval-weaponry.co.uk/a...DX645Close.jpg

[Redleg]

The mace seems very underused in the game. If I'm correct it gave common soldiers the ability to pierce through more heavily armoured enemies - like dismounted knights.

As did the warhammer, maul, bill, halberd and flail : ) among others

[Sher Khan]

I'm pretty sure Flagellants use big flails, so couldn't that animation be carried over perhaps?

[Old_Scratch]

If you upgrade the weapon of HRE dismounted imperial knights they will have that very mace. Some other units will get it too with the weapon upgrade, but I don't remember them all.

[Sacc]

Thanks for the responses. I guess I would have thought they were more common. I think there's a lithuanian faction in kingdoms who use the first type of mace too. Or maybe it's byzantium, I forget.

[roy34543]

halberd is actually quite well represented.

[Redleg]

halberd is actually quite well represented.

Yes it is surprisingly, was just throwing some other weapons out there, that arent commonly repressented in games, my bad on the last post, wasn't aware that the term morningstar can be used to describe a flail. Interestingly it actually refers to the spiked ball and not the whole weapon

[Duke4747]

That second mace looks freaking SWEET! I wish i could zoom in on troops seeing them swinging that mace on an enemies skull!

[Redleg]

That second mace looks freaking SWEET! I wish i could zoom in on troops seeing them swinging that mace on an enemies skull!

It's a flail, not a mace

[shoshenq]

the fail was a very unwieldy weapon and very few knew how to use it, let alone not get killed while swinging it. An exotic weapon at best.

[masterbaker]

Its just not practical to have to swing around your weapon repeatedly in order to kill anyone, and it could lead to a lot of "friendly fire" in tight formation.

[Double A]

I believe the first one is a "Morning Star," and the one with the chain is a "Flail"

[Redleg]

I believe the first one is a "Morning Star," and the one with the chain is a "Flail"

Theyre both morningstars, the name morningstar is a reference to the spiked ball on top or attatched to the chain, however it's more commonly associated with the mace (first picture) rather than the flail (second picture)

[Sacc]

Thanks for the clarification on the names. I'm sure the "flail" was very impractical. Just think it'd be cool if there was a unit that used it.

[Redleg]

It was actually quite useful in the right hands, doesnt take much to get the hang of using one, there were several variations of them, polearm styles, even wooden heads instead of metal.