Captial Punishment

**KingDesra** · February 07, 2008, 03:02 PM

Well ok, making a poll here. Here's how I see it, you take someone's life then yours should be taken no way he would get away with murder. I'd like to know some of these people's reasoning for letting someone like that live. Would they let live a serial killer? a terrorist? Adolf Hitler? Let's see...

**Irishman** · February 07, 2008, 03:10 PM

I do not think that there is ever a case in which capital punishment is justified.

**Cúchulainn** · February 07, 2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Irishman

I do not think that there is ever a case in which capital punishment is justified.

Same here.

How can a society become enlightened if it still uses the "eye for an eye" mentality.

**KingDesra** · February 07, 2008, 04:20 PM

ok next question would be (I am not going to share too much of my view) What's the point if you let them live? They get out of jail at times commit more murders, go to jail or something like that, they still get pleasures of life etc, why do they deserve that?

**gaius valerius** · February 07, 2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by KingDesra

ok next question would be (I am not going to share too much of my view) What's the point if you let them live? They get out of jail at times commit more murders, go to jail or something like that, they still get pleasures of life etc, why do they deserve that?

Even if they do deserve it. We are humans and shouldn't degrade ourselves to their level. One must be consequent in his ethics. No is no, exceptions aren't made. Either you ban it or you don't. Putting someone in a cell for the rest of his life, the same walls day after day, it's not really a pleasure either.

**KingDesra** · February 07, 2008, 04:25 PM

That's not always so for a killer, alot of times they can still have sex, watch tv, get fed well, alot of things they do. You think they deserve to have those enjoyments after destroying one's life?

**gaius valerius** · February 07, 2008, 04:21 PM

Capital punishment is a remnant from the past. A civilised and advanced culture doesn't need it.

**Kritias** · February 07, 2008, 04:30 PM

No, I wouldn't agree on the death penalty. Lock em up for life, if they are serial killers etc.

Putting someone in a cell for the rest of his life, the same walls day after day, it's not really a pleasure either.

Humanitarian approaches are all well and good. What if though a serial killer had killed a friend or a member of your family? Wouldn't you want them in prison? And if the cells are not a pleasure, then he shouldn't have committed murder... The criminals must be punished somehow.

**Richard** · February 08, 2008, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Irishman

I do not think that there is ever a case in which capital punishment is justified.

Same. I advocate death only when absolutely necessary; generally situations like hostage crises; defense of innocents or self defense etc. If you've got someone in handcuffs then there is really no reason to kill them other than vengeance. Imprisonment serves the same purpose; keeps the public safe, punishes the offender, and deters others.

**Irishman** · February 07, 2008, 04:27 PM

What's the point if you let them live?

Why kill? I might remind you that no justice system is perfect, and innocent people are killed under capital systems.

That's not always so for a killer, alot of times they can still have sex, watch tv, get fed well, alot of things they do. You think they deserve to have those enjoyments after destroying one's life?

The point is that we have no right to end another person's life.

**kev-o** · February 07, 2008, 04:32 PM

Killers still kill even when they are in prison. Especially the ones who have life. If they kill another immate, what do you do? Give them more time? Take away their previlages? Solitary?

Plus, people like rapists, sexual offenders, and pedophiles can't be reformed, thats a fact and yet they do their time, are released and commit another crime.

**gaius valerius** · February 07, 2008, 04:37 PM

Then you become a low animal like them... yes that is a sign of an advanced civilisation. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind... A famous person once said that.

**Kritias** · February 07, 2008, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by kev-o

Killers still kill even when they are in prison. Especially the ones who have life. If they kill another immate, what do you do? Give them more time? Take away their previlages? Solitary?

Plus, people like rapists, sexual offenders, and pedophiles can't be reformed, thats a fact and yet they do their time, are released and commit another crime.

So you would have them killed? The society will not avoid these crimes by killing the offenders, mate. For example, in US were the capital punishment is in effect to some states, do criminality, rapes, murders etc have lower statistic figures than those states that do not have the death penalty?

**kev-o** · February 07, 2008, 04:41 PM

Then you become a low animal like them

Ok

yes that is a sign of an advanced civilisation

No that is a sign of a productive civ which gives justice its due.

An eye for an eye makes the world go blind... A famous person once said that.

Yeah coming from a racist.

**Irishman** · February 07, 2008, 04:44 PM

I find it interesting that the two defenders of Capital punishment in this thread are two strongly christian people.

Usually I dont see Christians defending this, of course it could be an american-protestant thing.