Am I Going to Hell?

[Exarch]

ok<giggle> let me start from the beginning.
It's no secret that i'm an atheist, just as it's no secret that i hate the judeo-christian religions with a passion bordering on the religious.
Anyhoo, a coupla months back when i was meandering around Town Hall waiting for a friend, this old bloke was standing around handing out little pocket bibles to everyone.
Feeling hard pressed not to refuse such a gift, i took the book although it burned my hand (jk).
well anyhow, a few days back, i was doing a No.2 in some unnameable toilet in some equally unnamable part of sydney, when the toilet roll ran out.
Exemplifying the resourcefulness of the ANZACs, i made do with what i had. Watching the old testament being flushed down the dunny was particularly satisfying.
Am i going to hell?

[Dayman]

No, in fact you're going to heaven for using that mind and doing what needed to be done with your human cleverness

[Gunslinger-52]

ok<giggle> let me start from the beginning.
It's no secret that i'm an atheist, just as it's no secret that i hate the judeo-christian religions with a passion bordering on the religious.
Anyhoo, a coupla months back when i was meandering around Town Hall waiting for a friend, this old bloke was standing around handing out little pocket bibles to everyone.
Feeling hard pressed not to refuse such a gift, i took the book although it burned my hand (jk).
well anyhow, a few days back, i was doing a No.2 in some unnameable toilet in some equally unnamable part of sydney, when the toilet roll ran out.
Exemplifying the resourcefulness of the ANZACs, i made do with what i had. Watchig the old testament being flushed down the dunny was particularly satisfying.
Am i going to hell?

I tried asking Pat Robertson but he wouldn't stop doing the whole fire and brimstone routine over Hugo Chavez

[Tajir]

Yes, you're going to hell.

This topic is as stupid as me asking:

"I've got a pointed nose, lots of bodily hair, I love falafel, and I am a daily reader of Al-Jazeera -- am I Chinese...?"

Seriously, this is disguised trolling at its finest and nothing more.

[The Good]

I don't know exactly for sure, but you will go to Hell if you live a sinful lifestyle, and you deny that Jesus is the Messiah, or His existence altogether. The good news is that you still redeemable, and capable of forgiveness. If you accept Jesus into your heart sincerely, and pray for your salvation, you will be saved. However, you are not saved permanently after that, you are supposed to live a Christ-like life, and be righteous in all that you do, or try.

I hope that helped answer your question.

[Gunslinger-52]

I don't know exactly for sure, but you will go to Hell if you live a sinful lifestyle, and you deny that Jesus is the Messiah, or His existence altogether. The good news is that you still redeemable, and capable of forgiveness. If you accept Jesus into your heart sincerely, and pray for your salvation, you will be saved. However, you are not saved permanently after that, you are supposed to live a Christ-like life, and be righteous in all that you do, or try.

I hope that helped answer your question.

is it just me or is the Christian god just a wee bit insecure. you would think that an omnipotent being wouldn't feel the need to be brown nosed all the time

[Medicus]

I don't know exactly for sure, but you will go to Hell if you live a sinful lifestyle, and you deny that Jesus is the Messiah, or His existence altogether.

Ignoring the whole "believe in me or I'm doom you to an eternity of fire and brimstone", what exactly is a "sinful" lifestyle? Can I balance it? Like, say, I could donate much of my pay to charity, but bonk a different woman every other night?

I would trust my children with George before with Michael.

I don't know about that. Michael would molest your kids, but George would send them off to die in a far-off country. Which is the lesser evil?

[boofhead]

I'm not going to hell.

Just do your best (scouts)

[Exarch]

actually i think it's a highly profound topic, covering such areas as
1) does hell actually exist, even though i'm an atheist'?
2) what makes a book/text so 'holy' that people kill others over what one passage means?
3) why is this 'book' considered holy enough for some ppl to consign me to eternal suffering for wiping my butt with it?

[basics]

Exarch,

The prime reason that you may go to Hell is that, born a sinner, unless that changes, that is exactly where you are going. It doesn't matter what sinning you do, for one is no greater than another except where the Holy Ghost may speak to you and you reject Him out of hand, all else can be redeemed.

Don't think for a moment that using the pages of a Bible as toilet paper merits better attention or horror in the eyes of a Christian any more than it does anyone else except for perhaps some pity knowing that someday you and you alone are going to stand before God to explain your actions.

But if I am wrong and you are right both of us at your death will know nothing since you believe in nothing as the end product. But if I am right there is only one person who is going to look and feel extremely foolish on that day, but Hell is not the ultimate, rather an intermediary place before the real punishment begins.

Just think that if you are right you won't even be able to celebrate that you are whereas those that do believe if they are right will have much to enthuse over. Does that really make you feel secure?

[Exarch]

Exarch,

The prime reason that you may go to Hell is that, born a sinner, unless that changes, that is exactly where you are going. It doesn't matter what sinning you do, for one is no greater than another except where the Holy Ghost may speak to you and you reject Him out of hand, all else can be redeemed.

i'm sorry, i was born a sinner?
well, forgive me, i had no idea breathing, kicking and crying were bad things.
Christianity's source of power over its converts is the sense of projected collective guilt, and some promise about a massive party in heaven while we heathens all burn.
How can someone be born a sinner? ( i mean i know why christians think that, but seriously!)
Truly, the conduct of your omniscient 'god' is highly admirable.

Don't think for a moment that using the pages of a Bible as toilet paper merits better attention or horror in the eyes of a Christian any more than it does anyone else except for perhaps some pity knowing that someday you and you alone are going to stand before God to explain your actions.

i'm going to plead the fifth amendment should that ever happen

But if I am wrong and you are right both of us at your death will know nothing since you believe in nothing as the end product. But if I am right there is only one person who is going to look and feel extremely foolish on that day, but Hell is not the ultimate, rather an intermediary place before the real punishment begins.

Make no mistake, because a lot of people appear to be confused about the meaning of atheism.
Atheism is defined by Dictionary.com as 'the doctrine or belief that there is no God', or as Sam Harris puts it, simply the lack of religious beliefs. There are atheists who dont subscribe to any mainstream religion but hold private views on the afterlife and of spirituality in general.
It is sheer arrogance for christians to believe that their viewpoint on the afterlife is the only prevailing one.
i have a theory on the afterlife that resembles the opening scene of Beowulf3D and heavily influenced by the ancient norse version of Valhalla, backed up by nothing but my healthy imagination and desire to be in a place with good mates, good food, good drink and comely women. Does that mean that it'll happen for sure?
Obviously both our versions of the afterlife benefit only those who believe in it. The only difference between my version and yours, is that your version of the afterlife comes with a rather sadistic twist of enjoying heaven while all else suffer the torments of a lake of fire.
This little issue in your religion has you guys annoying the crap outta ppl via attempting to convert every1.

Just think that if you are right you won't even be able to celebrate that you are whereas those that do believe if they are right will have much to enthuse over. Does that really make you feel secure

such beliefs, like my Beowulf3d fantasy, are mere flights of fancy. we want them to be true, but that doesnt mean that it is true.

[boofhead]

I'm a Christian. And I'm a man. So I have no apologies really. A grown-up boy is a man.

[Burnum]

I'm a Christian. And I'm a man. So I have no apologies really. A grown-up boy is a man.

Unless you're Michael Jackson or George bush.

[boofhead]

Unless you're Michael Jackson or George bush.

I would trust my children with George before with Michael.

[Dayman]

I would trust my children with George before with Michael.

Hell I'd probably hang out with George. Seems like a fun guy. Like Wiffleball Tony (no video, just sound)

[kev-o]

ok<giggle> let me start from the beginning.
It's no secret that i'm an atheist, just as it's no secret that i hate the judeo-christian religions with a passion bordering on the religious.
Anyhoo, a coupla months back when i was meandering around Town Hall waiting for a friend, this old bloke was standing around handing out little pocket bibles to everyone.
Feeling hard pressed not to refuse such a gift, i took the book although it burned my hand (jk).
well anyhow, a few days back, i was doing a No.2 in some unnameable toilet in some equally unnamable part of sydney, when the toilet roll ran out.
Exemplifying the resourcefulness of the ANZACs, i made do with what i had. Watching the old testament being flushed down the dunny was particularly satisfying.
Am i going to hell?

First rule of taking a crap in a public bathroom: always check and see if there is enough tp. If not then go to the next stall or bathroom. And as for if you are going to hell or not, that isn't for us to say. You will one day meet your maker (and I don't mean your mother/father) and he will cast his decision.

[Kiljan Arslan]

If you did it just to throw it away probally not, however if you were coing to be be an ******* like that captain awesome guy on Youtube who decided to flush a koran down the toilet, or like that other guy who **** on a bible, then probally, but if you wern't than your not.

[Exarch]

If you did it just to throw it away probally not, however if you were coing to be be an ******* like that captain awesome guy on Youtube who decided to flush a koran down the toilet, or like that other guy who **** on a bible, then probally, but if you wern't than your not.

i dont know who captain awesome is, but the thing is, i've suddenly found new uses for free pocket bibles which i'd never discovered before. Ever since that incident, i've always accepted a free bible for the following purposes:

1) wiping down tables and opening 'sus'-looking handles on toilet doors. yes people, if u found a trail of pages of deuteronomy and matthew, mark, luke and john, it's most likely cuz i've been there.
2) plugging up holes in my shoes when it rains.
3) fixing wobbly tables
4) keeping warm when lighting fires with mates (yes yes, guys i know about the fire restrictions in nsw).

[Heinz Guderian]

1) wiping down tables and opening 'sus'-looking handles on toilet doors. yes people, if u found a trail of pages of deuteronomy and matthew, mark, luke and john, it's most likely cuz i've been there.
2) plugging up holes in my shoes when it rains.
3) fixing wobbly tables
4) keeping warm when lighting fires with mates (yes yes, guys i know about the fire restrictions in nsw).

Why would you do that to the Bible? I think it is unfortunate that you have little respect for something which is so revered by so many people even if you dont believe in it. Its about having some class.

I used to respect you dude.

[Kritias]

Yes you are going to eternal damnation. In fact, you were lucky you were indoors when you committed the terrible sacrilege of using the word of god as toilet paper -- He can get pretty nasty about that stuff... Well, since you survived His wrath when you exited the public toilet, I believe the Almighty decided to take his time and torment you before he hands you over to Hell.