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    The beliefs are Strong Military, Strong Economy, Freedom, Equality, Justice, Humanity. I call it Rhyceism after myself ofcourse lol. It sports a New system an "Imperial Democracy" another of my concepts. Where there are no political parties, Individuals are voted in to represent their electorate, basically independants in the senate etc. The system is a Constitutional Monarchy with an Emperor, then there are 3 Chancellors ("Prime Ministers") two must agree obviously for anything to happen. The Emperor has little power, unless additional power is granted to him however any additional powers can be removed at any time by the Senate, and they have expirery dates on them anyway.

    Government owns companies in a shares system where companies are owned by gov but not opperated by gov the government is prevented by the constitution to meddle in the affairs of its companies. This allows the government to lower taxes on individuals as it has another source of income.

    The section below is a small section from the Constitution. There are exceptions to what is outlined. These are handled in the Acts the Acts will explain in detail, so the function of an act differs in this system. Their is good reasoning for my decision on these light ristrictions I will explain below.

    Section IV Freedom of Profession and Activities
    Article 35 Freedom of Profession
    (1) All citizens have the right to freely choose their occupation in accordance with the Protection Initiatives outlined in the Public Protection Act, their place of work, and their place of study or training.
    (2) There is a duty to work. Forced labour however is prohibited.
    (3) Female Citizens can not work in Security, Policing, Military as part of the Public Protection Act.
    (4) Male Citizens can not work in Schools, Day Care Centres, Nursing as part of the Public Protection Act.
    The reason male citizens can't work in schools, daycare or anything in the caring industry, is to attempt to combat the harm that may come to those citizens in those institutions. There will also be restrictions for the Churchs aswell we all know what happens behind closed doors. I am trying to combat the social issues in regular societies and create a safe, and fair one for all citizens. I am very proud of this section.

    I have a taxation plan that I believe will breakdown the boundaries between rich and poor, but keep an economy strong. I will give you a brief overview. Citizens will earn between $35,000-$100,000 no one earns any more than that. People under $35,000 part time workers pay no tax. Tax is minimal. Government owns business but does not operate it sortof a share holding system. All companies are run by a board not by the government. But Government recieves the profits this will eliminate the need for heavy taxation. Which will increase citizens ability to spend therefore strengthening the economy. Plus the business will be encouraged to go international, increasing Government revenue. This is unlike the failed version that communist countries had, they were one party state owned and opperated business. See where the systems differ.

    Public Transport will be fare free, there will be a minor tax for it. Other costs of the transport sector will be countered by the governments other revenue. So there won't be a need for the transport sector to police fare evasion.
    How will people afford land with those wages? Well I have a system to solve that too. People don't exactly own land, they purhase the right to live somewhere for life and their parteners life if they are a couple.

    There would be a department to handle this, people purchase say a $80,000 contract depending on location it may be cheaper, but the most expensive for the top end worker would be around $150,000. No one can force them to move not even the government, the government can offer another property of greater or equal value, and will cover the citizens moving costs. But if the citizen refuses the offer the government just has to wait. There are no additional payments its a one off fee.

    Emperor
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    Tri-Chancellorship
    |
    Senate
    | Corruption Committee
    House of Commons
    |
    State Governments
    | Federal Police
    Local Councils

    Emperor = 1
    Tri-Chancellorship = 3 Chancellors (“Prime Ministers”)
    Senate = 540 Members + 20 Ministers
    House of Commons = 140 Members
    Corruption Committee = 70 Investigators + 3 Chairmen

    The Roles within Government (outline)
    Emperor
    The Emperor is a hands on job his job is to be the Judge in the Senate (keep order and the proceedings moving). He is Commander in Chief of the Military, If the role of Commander in Cheif is granted to him by the Senate. The Emperor is the head of state. He has the right of pardon, to conduct foreign affairs, and to all other representative functions of the State. The Emperor is the only individual in government authorised to introduce a bill directly into the Senate. The Emperor is the only person authorised to declare war or make peace, with senate approval. The Emperor is the only member of government able to veto a motion, bill or alike. The sole right to elect Supreme Court judges.

    Tri-Chancellorship
    May continue government proceedings if the Emperor is indisposed, or an heir is not of legal age to rule. The chancellorship is responsible for the reading of bills, introduction of the Yearly budget. Meeting with foreign dignitaries when the Emperor is unavailable.

    The Senate
    Is composed of men and women who are elected by the people to speak for the people, and vote on issues of law etc.

    House of Commons
    Is composed of men and women who are elected by the people to speak for the people, and vote on issues of law etc. This is where the Introduction of a bill begins.

    Corruption Committee
    The Corruption Committee would be responsible for Investigating members of Parliament for corruption their sole responsibility is to see wether a minister is voting according to how his community feels (within reason), to keep track of politicians associations and make comparisons, in order to catch vote fixers (anyone attempting to exploit the system). There are three chairmen so that no one man has complete control
    over the department.

    State Governments
    State governments have no ability to refuse a change made by the Senate if it is done across the entire nation. State Government has the right to make local laws so long as they are not conflicting with laws passed in the Senate.

    Federal Police
    Perform the same role as the Corruption Committee but for the state Governments. They are also the top policing organisation in the nation.

    Local Councils
    Manage the day to day running of their local area. Local Councils cannot pass laws or rules. They are an organisation that maintains local areas.


    Its only a short description?
    Its all part of Rhyceism if you agree your a Rhyceist. lol
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    Then call me a (limited) Rhycesit, sir.

    It sounds good, at last in theory. It kind of reminds me of the Old Republic in Star Wars if you replace the Emperor by a Chancellor. (Also in the potentially high vulnerability to Emperors who are willing to become dicators, which is of course a negative aspect)

    I especially like the sentence "we may aswell not call it socialism".

    Is there also place for a nobility in your system?


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    Citizens will earn between $35,000-$100,000 no one earns any more than that.
    Mmmhh... is there any way to earn more than that? I think I can't agree on that.
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    No Emperors can not become dictators being Commander in Chief of the Military is something the Senate gives to the Emperor and it can be taken away aswell the military only answers to the Emperor if he is granted the role of C in C. The senate is the body that all sectors answer to at the end of the day, the senate can legally remove the Emperor and place him on trial in the senate if he has commited an unspeakable act.

    Nobility well I think is pretty redundent, we treat our movie stars like nobles these days. So I see no need.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    No Emperors can not become dictators being Commander in Chief of the Military is something the Senate gives to the Emperor and it can be taken away aswell the military only answers to the Emperor if he is granted the role of C in C. The senate is the body that all sectors answer to at the end of the day, the senate can legally remove the Emperor and place him on trial in the senate if he has commited an unspeakable act.
    That's fine in theory, but we all know that a skilled politican gets what he wants once granted such a power...

    Nobility well I think is pretty redundent, we treat our movie stars like nobles these days. So I see no need.
    Oh dang. But there is hereditary succession, isn't it? So there must at least be a royal/imperial family and so it's just logical there's also a nobility. I mean, the princes need women of noble blood to marry.
    Seriously, a monarchy needs nobility.
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    Thats true it is possible but it is possible under any system, I am trying to think up as many safe guards as possible. Succession is Hereditary apon recomendation, so 1st born doesn't always get the crown he must prove himself the better heir for the job.
    Yes a royal family there would be, but anyone may be adopted into it forcing people to marry "nobles" I don't think is right they should have the right to choose their partner like everyone else.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    Yes a royal family there would be, but anyone may be adopted into it forcing people to marry "nobles" I don't think is right they should have the right to choose their partner like everyone else.
    And what if they want to marry other nobles?

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    Inbreeding , hmm not a good idea. I suppose you could say nobles don't exist outside the Royal family unless you marry in to it.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    I suppose you could say nobles don't exist outside the Royal family unless you marry in to it.
    That makes me sad! But fair enough, I'll leave now and sleep about it. Good night, Chancellor.

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    If anything like that happened here I would take up arms to bring it down.

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    I don't think you read all of my first post... and actually think about it? Satisfied with how the US just bobbs along, I'm not saying the system is for everyone. But opposing with out understanding is ignorant. England perfectly fine with the Constitutional Monarchy, it works fine the British people are happy, It has its problems to yes of course. A President isn't the only answer, plus you have to admitt there is alot of exlpoiting going on in the US it isn't exactly the best model for Government. But the US needs a bit of tweaking I'm not saying to this extent but it has alot of problems. Alot of it being poverty. If your prob is with the Emperor then it might confront you to know he has less power than the President of any Democratic Nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    -Removed, Continuity-? and actually think about it? Satisfied with how the US just bobbs along, I'm not saying the system is for everyone. But opposing with out understanding is ignorant. England perfectly fine with the Constitutional Monarchy, it works fine the British people are happy, It has its problems to yes of course. A President isn't the only answer, plus you have to admit there is a lot of exploiting going on in the US it isn't exactly the best model for Government. But the US needs a bit of tweaking I'm not saying to this extent but it has a lot of problems. A lot of it being poverty. If your prob is with the Emperor then it might confort you to know he has less power than the President of any Democratic Nation.
    I understand perfectly and TOTALLY disagree with it. Government ownership of business removes incentrive to perform from the economy.

    Wage controls do the same thing. Then the idea that the government profits off of an individuals innovations is repugnant. These kinds of things will produce more poverty, not less.
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    call me a limited one too I just am not a total fan of Monarchy, but I am for a strong economy however I believe the right to vote is eaned not given when one turns 18.
    according to exarch I am like
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    (3) Female Citizens can not work in Security, Policing, Military as part of the Public Protection Act.
    (4) Male Citizens can not work in Schools, Day Care Centres, Nursing as part of the Public Protection Act.
    Many people (including myself) would disagree with this. You cannot have a government that claims it upholds freedom if you do not allow its citizens the right to choose their occupation - regardless of whether they are male or female. Also, I see no good reason why men can't be teachers (some of my best teachers were men) and women can't be part of the police force.

    Citizens will earn between $35,000-$100,000 no one earns any more than that.
    That's not all too high of an upper limit. People in high-end jobs may not be motivated enough to work if they know they will not get much more money for doing so. I'd at least increase the upper limit to $1,000,000 to allow the prospect of prosperity to citizens.

    All companies are run by a board not by the government. But Government recieves the profits this will eliminate the need for heavy taxation
    So what will the incentive be for individuals working in those companies to produce high-quality products if they do not receive a share of the profits? Also if it were more profitable for the government, they would support monopolies and thus the choice of products available to the consumer would be small and there would be little innovation. You also haven't mentioned how new companies would be created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Commander Bob View Post
    Many people (including myself) would disagree with this. You cannot have a government that claims it upholds freedom if you do not allow its citizens the right to choose their occupation - regardless of whether they are male or female. Also, I see no good reason why men can't be teachers (some of my best teachers were men) and women can't be part of the police force.
    Yepp, I agree, Bob.

    That's not all too high of an upper limit. People in high-end jobs may not be motivated enough to work if they know they will not get much more money for doing so. I'd at least increase the upper limit to $1,000,000 to allow the prospect of prosperity to citizens.
    I totally agree to that, Bob!

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    If anything like this would happen I would join GrnEyedDvl an unelected leader chosen because his sperm came from the right dick is an unacceptable concept and I wouldn't abide living under it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man With No Name View Post
    an unelected leader chosen because his sperm came from the right dick is an unacceptable concept and I wouldn't abide living under it.
    It worked for severeal centuries!

    Seriously, the Emperor has not the real power in this system, so he can't be considered the leader.
    And besides: In full democrazy the leader is elected but does that make him a capable leader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General A. Skywalker View Post
    It worked for severeal centuries!

    Seriously, the Emperor has not the real power in this system, so he can't be considered the leader.
    And besides: In full democrazy the leader is elected but does that make him a capable leader?
    Well it worked for those on top, for the peasants who made up the majority of the population the situation was as sunny.

    Anyways, according to this system he has the right to veto bills and introduce legislation. Any power beyond "look pretty for the cameras" cannot be given to a persons whose qualification lies on the fact his mommy got porked by the right daddy.
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    Surely any political ideal from Palpatine is destined to fail - I've seen the movies... (Especially when the future Vader is already in agreement).
    I'll join GrnEyedDvl's 'Rebel Alliance'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    -Removed, Continuity- Satisfied with how the US just bobbs along, I'm not saying the system is for everyone. But apposing with out understanding is ignorant.
    I actually think the ignorance here is on your side, you have no idea what makes an economy actually work. Its not the government telling people how things should run, its the other way around. Its people with ideas, that turn that into a profitable business for themselves, and in the process create jobs for other people. The economy is not a static end sum game. It has to flexible and allow for growth and change. If the government owns all businesses, how do new ones get started? Why would anyone spend the time working on a business plan when they wouldnt get any benefits from it? Sure you can turn it over to a government "idea" agency/panel/commitee, but I doubt you can name ONE government agency in ANY country that runs as smoothly as the average profitable business. This is partly because nobody in government is acutally held accountable for their decisions, very rarely does that happen, and partly because true business people know that because of its very nature, government is inefficient so they stay away from it as much as possible and do their own thing.

    Then what about the businesses currently operating. You are just going to take them away and hand them over to government control and pay the owner the max of 100k to run it? Not MY business. I have far more than that invested, and make more than that now. I invested MY time and MY money, and if you think I would just hand it over you are sadly mistaken.


    Quote Originally Posted by General A. Skywalker View Post
    It worked for severeal centuries!
    It didnt work, which is why its no longer around. Survival of the fittest applies to governments and businesses too.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man With No Name View Post
    If anything like this would happen I would join GrnEyedDvl an unelected leader chosen because his sperm came from the right dick is an unacceptable concept and I wouldn't abide living under it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ummagumma View Post
    Surely any political ideal from Palpatine is destined to fail - I've seen the movies... (Especially when the future Vader is already in agreement).

    I'll join GrnEyedDvl's 'Rebel Alliance'...
    You rebel scum! You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! How DARE you want to make your own decisions! Dont you know that the government knows what is best for you?

    Rebel Base being established as we speak, I will send coordinates soon. May the Force be with you.
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    Originally Posted by General A. Skywalker View Post
    It worked for severeal centuries!
    The inheritance issue. You say it worked. It the time of monarchy there was a constant state of war. The only democracy to declare war on another since their introduction and widespread use was GB on Finland in WW2. I think the lack of war gives you a pretty good reason. And anyone with the time can give hundreds of reasons why monarchies worked, and yet where rubbish for the majority of people.

    As for the economy. I've studied economics at university, but i'm no know all. But most if not all of what Grneyeddevil has said rings true. The problem with economics is that in its current state, with people's current mentality capitalism is the only way people and society can work. Thats why so many ideologies fail. Because we in the western world at the very least cannot this outside of capitalism and consumerism to attain a mindset that would allow other types of existence to work. I don't think ive yet read a truly alternative political theory that has answered this problem because we as a race are stuck in this rut. The best i've read that works with modern economies and modern mindsets in Rawl's 'Theory of Justice' which even then needs a few alterations. Its not my Utopian ideal, but its the most workable theory i've read thus far for modern day economics, and society.
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