Why can't AI just accept peace treaty??

**AqD** · February 01, 2008, 09:17 AM

I sneaked into romans's back while they're fighting against the macedonians, took the whole Sicily and destroyed one half-stack army of theirs. I found they're being screwed too much and could die just in a few turns, which is bad for my plan to destroy macedon from their back, so I offered cease-fire - I return one city - the southmost one on italian peninsula, where there is a captured eagle, and also give 100k money. They accepted and I retreated all but garrison troops, but then they called back all armies from northern italy (where macedonian armies are) and sent into Sicily, intended to fight me. And by starting war against me they also lost the alliance with spain, which could provide certain help against macedonians.

So why, why must they be so stupid and unreasonable? They are too weak and cannot win a two-side war against two superpowers. It seems to be against human players only, as I have seen many times AI factions negotiate with others to avoid two-side wars. But this time they don't even get a cease-fire from macedon! (macedonians have no reason to accept, I think, as they have nowhere to expand to otherwise)

It's sad that I have to kill them now. Poor romans, sigh.

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**Solaris** · February 01, 2008, 10:29 PM

It's Total War.. not Total Diplomacy.

**AqD** · February 01, 2008, 10:35 PM

But under the same condition they'd usually have accepted if I'm AI not human....... They need to concentrate on the macedonians, even through they have won most battles they're still seriously outnumbered and city after city of theirs have been taken.
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**~~Tony83~~** · February 02, 2008, 11:51 AM

I think it boils down to the fact that the campaign and diplomatic AI's were developed separately and, consequently, do not integrate at all well on the campaign map.

Personally, I think that the failings of the AI in the campaign outdoes the silly things that can occur on the battle map.

I dream of the day when the TW campaign approaches that of Europa Universallis!

**Selahedîn** · February 05, 2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Tony83

I dream of the day when the TW campaign approaches that of Europa Universallis!

Don't we all...

**AqD** · February 06, 2008, 10:23 PM

Europa Universallis is another TW-like game??
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**Selahedîn** · February 07, 2008, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by aqd

Europa Universallis is another TW-like game??

Well, not really. Imagine a TW game, then remove the ability to fight your own battles, but add incredible diplomacy and realism and you have Europa Universalis.

If you want to know more, just follow this link.

PS: The day they merge TW's battles with EU's diplomacy is the day my social life disappears forever.

**Demokritos** · February 07, 2008, 01:40 AM

If I remember right, Europa Universalis has no battle mode where you decide the outcome on the field like a general, it is more purely a strategy game based on historical facts - but an incredibly deep one at that.

Regarding the rather mysterious workings of RTW diplomacy, maybe you guys want to check out the discussion that was held about it at length in the "Revolutionary Diplomacy Modification Discovery" thread started by Jaklei in the "Text editing and scripting" section of the "Rome Workshop" here in TWC (it was a while ago, so you may have to search for it). Post #31 in particular might shed some light on the matter.

**Brusilov** · February 07, 2008, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Demokritos

If I remember right, Europa Universalis has no battle mode where you decide the outcome on the field like a general, it is more purely a strategy game based on historical facts - but an incredibly deep one at that.

Regarding the rather mysterious workings of RTW diplomacy, maybe you guys want to check out the discussion that was held about it at length in the "Revolutionary Diplomacy Modification Discovery" thread started by Jaklei in the "Text editing and scripting" section of the "Rome Workshop" here in TWC (it was a while ago, so you may have to search for it). Post #31 in particular might shed some light on the matter.

If you refer to a link in the forum it's easier for everyone to include a link to it (even of that takes a bit of effort).

Here is the thread;
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60478

Here is the post;
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...6&postcount=31

**Demokritos** · February 07, 2008, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

If you refer to a link in the forum it's easier for everyone to include a link to it (even of that takes a bit of effort).

Here is the thread;
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60478

Here is the post;
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...6&postcount=31

Yes, I would have done so if I knew how to do that. Could you show me how?

PS: Thanks for providing those links and making it easier for all.