Replenishing Troops

**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 08:09 AM

I didnt know whether to post this in the bugs section or if this is a universal issue not just DLV... playing the latest 5.3 kingdoms

I have never noticed until know... and I play alot so I feel pretty stupid if this has been like this for awhile... but after a battle.. a large portion of my troops auto replenish!!! what is up with that and how can it be fized...

For instance.. I just won a battle in which I lost my entire mercenary knights cavalry unit ... After the battle there all replenished... I won some other battles and the same thing..

Now I do know that if any of your men are captured and you win the battle you will get those troops back... but these units im talking about never got routed.. they fought until the entire unit was eliminated... what is the deal with this.. no wonder this game is so dang easy!!!! I never loose troops...

I noticed last night I had 3 heavy infantry units fight till no one left... they never routed.. after the battle which I won.. I still showed over 300 men left in the combined 3 units.. this is crap!!!

What can I do to fix this? if possible.. I am purposly disbanding these units after the battle to be fair...

would this have anything to do with the fact that I modified the unit size ? I cant see how... or is this a wounded men return to ranks factor or something? does the AI expereince the same thing?

**gubbs** · February 01, 2008, 08:17 AM

I haven't noticed this myself ..

Could it be that you are not including the 'casualties healed' figures after the battle? This can be quite a good proportion if your general has an apothecay or doctor ancillary..

Also, General's Bodyguards will auto replenish as you probably know ..

Would definately be a problem if they were all healed!

Try a fresh install in that case ..??

**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 08:33 AM

yeah I knew bodyguard auto replensished..

But i seriously lost my entire cavalry unit of 71 men... and after the battle there were 70 there... even if this was a wounded return to ranks.. then I guess my army is invincible.... no one dies... ha

Is there a causualties healed factor?

**gubbs** · February 01, 2008, 08:41 AM

Sure, but not 80%.

I think you must have a cross-threaded screw in there somewhere.

**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 08:59 AM

major cross thread.. NEED HELP!!!! :hmmm:

**Pelican Man** · February 01, 2008, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Odie the King

would this have anything to do with the fact that I modified the unit size ? I cant see how... or is this a wounded men return to ranks factor or something?

That could be a possibility. Just wait for Repman or somebody from the mod team (sorry I dont know everybody else's name in the mod team, if there are any. I just started playing this mod)

Regards,

THE P-MAN

**Valantine** · February 01, 2008, 12:07 PM

There is a certain percentage of men who are "healed" after the battle which can be upgraded by certain ancilleries and traits. But it should never be a whole unit getting replenished if it was entirely decimated!
What i'd suggest is saving before a battle and then fight the battle, if the unit is auto replenished upload the save game so it can be looked at and see if anyone else can duplicate the problem. If not then it seems like something went wrong when you changed the count in the unit, either way a save game upload *should* help it get figured out quickly.
Regards
V

**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 12:23 PM

to be exact..

the cavalry unit went into the battle at 71 men.. lost all 71 during battle (DID NOT ROUT) won the battle.. after battle I noticed I had 70 cavalry in that unit.. and NO.. I did not have two of these cavalry units..
Im not at my game comp.. but I beleive the unit was a mercenary Frankish Knights...

the other battle was nearly the same.. I had 3 heavy infantry. (ritterbruder). I deployed 3 units of 200 men each and lost all 600 men in the 3 units (DID NOT ROUT) afterwards... I had 3 of these units with appox 150 in each unit...

wierd

I would certainly appreciate some wounded getting healed.. but 75- 100 % get real..

**Valantine** · February 01, 2008, 12:42 PM

Hum, sounds interesting! I;ve never encountered this problem or heard of it. If you can put the file you changed up as well il try and recreate the problem over the weekend and try to come up with a remedy - im sure some of the others woudl be quite interested as well!
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**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 01:03 PM

Valantine,

I wont be able to upload.. this is a different computer.. different location...

But I can tell you that the only thing that I modded for theses units would have been unit size which I used a multiplier of 1.67.... anotherwords.. 150 man units are now 250.. 120 man units are now 200...

and I multiplied all morale by 1.5 times..

otherwise no other changes except of course those made by DLV mod team for 5.0 and 5.3 patch...

**Pelican Man** · February 01, 2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Odie the King

Valantine,

I wont be able to upload.. this is a different computer.. different location...

But I can tell you that the only thing that I modded for theses units would have been unit size which I used a multiplier of 1.67.... anotherwords.. 150 man units are now 250.. 120 man units are now 200...

and I multiplied all morale by 1.5 times..

otherwise no other changes except of course those made by DLV mod team for 5.0 and 5.3 patch...

I'm pretty sure that is the problem. But I could be wrong.

THE P-MAN

**Odie the King** · February 01, 2008, 01:46 PM

Pelican,

how?

**Pelican Man** · February 01, 2008, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Odie the King

Pelican,

how?

There is a limit as to how many men you can have per unit. I do not remember the limit, but something reminds me that your numbers are higher then the limit. I wish I could tell you more. I'm no modder. lol

Anyways, hope that helped, and hopefully somebody with more knowledge can help you soon.

Regards,

THE P-MAN

**Valantine** · February 05, 2008, 01:25 PM

As i said - we can't really do much without either:
1.a trace log or
2.an uploaded save so we can replicate the problem.
I know say yo uare at a different computer but it's easy enough to transfer the files using a usb stick or even emailing it to your self and if the file is to big to attach to a forum post; hosting it somewhere like mediafire.com
Sorry, but that's as helpfull as I can be just from hearing you describe the problem.
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**Odie the King** · February 05, 2008, 02:16 PM

Valantine,

you lost me at trace log?

sorry.. i must be an idiot

**Valantine** · February 05, 2008, 04:02 PM

No problems Buddy, its not something you tend to use unless you have a problem

To facilitate the bugreport:
- in path C:\Programme\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\logs
- open file DLV_ext.cfg
- change error to trace and save
- go back to your campaign
- campaign will go slowly because of tracing
- after problem go to path : C:\Programme\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\logs
- open file system.log.txt (now very big file because of tracing) and post the last 100 lines
- change trace back to error

It's a long shot as your campaign isn't crashing its just acting weidly, but it may reveal some dodgy "werks" in yoru DLV

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