Max faction Limit 31 or 30 factions?

**Zephrelial** · January 31, 2008, 05:18 PM

This is my second long attempt trying to adding the 31th faction.I know that the hard coded limit is 31 factions max.I've checked everything..But I keep getting a start up CTD.So might it be that the faction limit is actually 30 instead of 31? :hmmm:

Here is my faction list:

1-england
2-france
3-hre
4-spain
5-venice
6-poland
7-sicily
8-milan
9-scotland
10-byzantium
11-russia
12-moors
13-turks
14-egypt
15-denmark
16-portugal
17-hungary
18-papal_states
19-teutons
20-jerusalem
21-kwarezm
22-wallachia
23-lithuania
24-mongols
25-abbasids
26-georgia
27-sweden
28-aztecs
29-timurids
30-kypchaks
31-slave

So I can't add the 31th faction which are the Kypchaks..Currently including the slaves there are 30 factions and the limit is 31,but I can't add the 31th faction so is the limit actually 30 factions max.?

EDIT:

I just made a test.Apparently like I said I made no mistakes.Gentleman I can confirm that the max faction limit we know as 31 is WRONG.

Max number of faction entries can be maximum 30 not 31.This means you can't make the entries for the 31th faction..You can only have 30 including the rebels.

I just left my all Kypchak entries as they were(the 31th faction I planned to implement for my personal mod)
I deleted all the entries for the faction Timurids.. and voila the game loaded.. So the limit is not 31,it's 30.. This should be corrected,I will post this at the hardcoded limit thread as well.

Also as a sidenote this is tested on m2tw not with Kingdoms expansion.

**CaesarBR** · May 16, 2008, 01:19 AM

Well...

I hope it is not 30

maybe it was related to some other hardcoded limit? like units limit for example...

or, you checked it?

**Dimitri_Harkov** · May 16, 2008, 03:21 AM

Sorry Zeph, but you are wrong. Our mod includes 31 factions and works. Both on M2TW & Kingdoms. Maybe you have missed some entries that should have been deleted.

These are our factions:
1 england
2 france
3 hre
4 bohemia
5 austria
6 bavaria
7 burgundy
8 sachsen
9 swabia
10 U_lorraine
11 l_lorraine
12 spain
13 sicily
14 milan
15 byzantium
16 turks
17 denmark
18 portugal
19 khazars
20 hungary
21 sweden
22 moors
23 russia
24 venice
25 scotland
26 obotrites
27 aragon
28 papal_states
29 poland
30 mongols
31 slave

Cheers!

**CaesarBR** · May 16, 2008, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dimitri_Harkov

Sorry Zeph, but you are wrong. Our mod includes 31 factions and works. Both on M2TW & Kingdoms. Maybe you have missed some entries that should have been deleted.

These are our factions:
1 england
2 france
3 hre
4 bohemia
5 austria
6 bavaria
7 burgundy
8 sachsen
9 swabia
10 U_lorraine
11 l_lorraine
12 spain
13 sicily
14 milan
15 byzantium
16 turks
17 denmark
18 portugal
19 khazars
20 hungary
21 sweden
22 moors
23 russia
24 venice
25 scotland
26 obotrites
27 aragon
28 papal_states
29 poland
30 mongols
31 slave

Cheers!

Good to know it!

and Zeph, maybe the units limit of 500 was surpassed with the new faction...

**Quark** · May 19, 2008, 05:45 PM

Zephrelial
I do know that KK tried to use the timurids as the 31st faction in SS 6.1, and the game CTD'ed, took them out and worked. I notice in Dimitri_Harkov's list there is no Timurids faction, so maybe the answer is there.

**CaesarBR** · May 19, 2008, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Quark

Zephrelial
I do know that KK tried to use the timurids as the 31st faction in SS 6.1, and the game CTD'ed, took them out and worked. I notice in Dimitri_Harkov's list there is no Timurids faction, so maybe the answer is there.

yes...indeed, maybe the answer is there...

**Ataegina** · May 19, 2008, 08:51 PM

i can confirm, the limit is 31 !

cheers

**CaesarBR** · May 19, 2008, 09:09 PM

off post but I couldn't resist to ask...

Ataegina...you have converted to Islam?

I'm asking 'cause of the La illaha illah Allah written in your profile...

**Ataegina** · May 20, 2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by MaximianusBR

off post but I couldn't resist to ask...

Ataegina...you have converted to Islam?

I'm asking 'cause of the La illaha illah Allah written in your profile...

can't really answer, but i've huge admiration for the islamic culture...... i can't denied, many people only see the bad side of islam.... but if i tell you wich religion i've born and stay until now and after talk about islam, would make this even more odd to understand

**CaesarBR** · May 20, 2008, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ataegina

can't really answer, but i've huge admiration for the islamic culture...... i can't denied, many people only see the bad side of islam.... but if i tell you wich religion i've born and stay until now and after talk about islam, would make this even more odd to understand

Well...then ok, let us just agree that Islam really deserves everyone's admiration!

Obs: I'm not Muslim, but I admire it...

**uanime5** · May 21, 2008, 06:51 AM

According to the battle_models.modeldb file there can be up to 32 factions, with the mercenary faction being considered different to the slave faction. However the mercenary faction is not listed in the descr_sm_factions.txt file.

**Ataegina** · May 21, 2008, 07:42 PM

if you added more than 31 in descr_sm_factions the game ill not recognize the extra entries, also mercenaries can't be seen as faction but yes as part of the rebels(slaves) wich allows some of their units to be recruited.