BC: Buildings, Traits, Ancillaries, Titles & Historical Characters

[Hawkwood]

Quick question (apologies if it's been answered here already - I couldn't seem to find one if so). How are the Faction-Leader-Only titles supposed to transfer from one leader to another? For instance, playing as KoJ, Baldwin died holding the King of Jerusalem and Master of Mecca titles - but neither seem to have transferred to the new Faction Leader. I've tried quartering him in each city for several turns with no luck (though he acquired the Caliph of Baghdad title during one turn change and he wasn't even quartered in the city at the time!).

[whhyy]

Oh yeah, not a full on rpg system.

Thank-you for crushing my fears.

[Jush]

Just thought up something for an Islamic faction trait...well, actually any faction that relies on Ghulams...

Would it be historically accurate/feasible to divide generals and adopted family members (read, no the biological dynasty) into "Ghulam" or "Free-born"? This could act as a dominant, starting trait, much like BC team's plan for ethnicity traits -- it would have starting bonuses or penalties, and would help determine later traits for that character.

I don't know for sure how you could distinguish between a "Ghulam" general and a "Free-born" one, but I would hazard to say a ghulam's loyalty would be a little more sound and dependable than a free-born noble (+4 loyalty?). Ghulams would probably have a little more battle experience, since they would almost surely be battle-tested (+1/+2 command, or perhaps bonuses to their hit-points). And you could add on from there...

Free-borns would probably be a bit more gregarious and populist, interested in maintaining their own position (+3 to popularity), perhaps a bit more skilled in economics (+? to taxes/trade/farming), but somewhat less loyal and battle-hardened, etc. etc.


Eh?

[Miraj]

Ahiga had this idea a while back too. The only issue seems to be that there is no way to test if a given general is a recruited general or not. If there was a "generalrecruited" whentotest condition then we'd be in business.

[Taneda Santôka]

Well...


EB, again, has a ethnic tracer and a very similar system for each faction. So no need for "generalrecruited test", since only recruited or adopted generals could get off the ethnical spring... I might not see the necessqary subtleties, but it works in other mods, ghulams arent gonna play smarty pants

[Miraj]

Daym, I need to download EB methinks.

[Jush]

You haven't played it yet? Beware, you might become hooked and forget to work on BC....

[Miraj]

I used to play it actually. But v1.0 was released while I was busy with BC and I also no longer can find my copy of RTW.

[Miraj]

It should automatically appear on the new faction leader.

[Hawkwood]

It should automatically appear on the new faction leader.

That's what I thought - definately didn't happen, so I'll report is as a bug in that thread. On a positive note, this is the first bug I've encountered w/BC so far - one Georgian campaign finished and halfway through a KoJ campaign. LOVE this mod!

[whhyy]

Give the 'Handsome' trait to diplomats. T'would make sence.

[Shadowcry]

What does command do for a general anyway?

[whhyy]

Helps auto resolve and (I think) makes your men have higher moral.

[Miraj]

If any of you have any good knowledge pertaining to the types of structures and complexes a classical medieval Islamic city would have I'd appreciate some enlightenment.

[Tunch Khan]

If any of you have any good knowledge pertaining to the types of structures and complexes a classical medieval Islamic city would have I'd appreciate some enlightenment.

Daru'l-Adlar: Founded by Zengi in Damascus, this establishment was literally a "House of Justice".

Daru'l-Hadis: Also established in Damascus by Zengi is this school which would specialize in teaching the "Hadis" (words of the Prophet). Religious learning center higher in education than Medrese.

Dar-ul-Ilm: Academy of sciences, called the Dar-ul-Ilm, or the Dar-ul-Hikma.
Large treasures of books were preserved there; scientists and learned men used it as an academy of sciences. People who visited Dar-ul-Ilm were provided with ink, paper and pen free of charge. Lavish gifts were given to the scholars attached to this academy.

Al-Nizamiyya: is one of the medieval institutions of higher education established by Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk in the eleventh century in present-day Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. The name nizamiyyah derives from his name. Founded at the beginning of the Seljuk empire, they are considered to be the model of madrassas, or Islamic religious schools.

Nizamiyyah institutes were the first well organized universities in the Muslim world. The quality of education was the highest in the Islamic world, and they were even renowned in Europe. They were supported financially, politically, and spiritually by the royal establishment and the elite class.
The most famous and celebrated of all the nizamiyyah schools was Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad (established 1065), where Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk appointed the distinguished philosopher and theologian, al-Ghazali, as a professor. Persian poet Sa'di was a student of the Baghdad Nizamiyyah. Other nizamiyyah schools were located in Nishapur, Balkh, Herat and Isfahan.

Postal Pigeon Houses: Established in most Zengid cities to boost and speed communication between rulers, governors and generals.

Waqf: Charity institutions. Wealthy men, and especially rulers, donated property as endowments, whose revenue went toward building and maintaining the institution. The property could consist of hospitals, schools, shops, mills, caravanserais, or even entire villages. The income from an endowment would pay for the maintenance and running costs of the hospital, and sometimes would supply a small stipend to the patient upon dismissal. Part of the state budget also went toward the maintenance of a hospital. The services of the hospital were to be free, though individual physicians might charge fees.

Bedesren: Lockable domed building at the heart of a market area where the most precious goods were sold and stored.

Divan: Council of State and Justice.

Hamam: They have played an important role in cultures of the Middle-East, serving as places of social gathering, ritual cleansing, and as architectural structures, institutions, and (later) elements with special customs attached to them. Europeans learned about the Hamam via contacts with the Ottomans, hence the "Turkish" part of the name.

Imaret: Soup kitchen for the poor, students, travellers, etc.

Muvakkithane: Room used by timekeeper/astronomer/astrologer.




The west gate of Darussifa (hospital) in Divrigi (Sivas):
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...vrig/00157.jpg


A Pigeon House with Tower / Minaret:

[Miraj]

Some interesting elements of Persian/Islamic cities that could be added in BC 2.0:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windcatcher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_gardens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab_anbar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhchal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravanserai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekyeh

[Shadowcry]

THe Buddhas of Bamiyan I think now that would loook kwl.

[Miraj]

You're joking right?

[Shadowcry]

Why not?

[Miraj]

Why would a Muslim faction build Buddhas?