William Tiller - How intentions effect the world

[Lunar4]

William Tiller is a teacher, researcher, author and consultant, and is currently Professor Emeritus of the Department of Materials Science and Engineering at Stanford University. He previously worked as an advisory physicist at Westinghouse Research Laboratories, and has published 275 scientific papers and three technical books in the field of materials science.

He has carried out experiments at stanford university with highly trained Tibettan monks, and found that their intentions can 'condition' space in a machine on an atomic level. He is one of the few scientists that is not put off by the scientific communities overwhelmingly negative opinion on these sort of effects.

A knowledge of scientific principles is required to understand what he is saying in its entirity, although the basic principles are easy to understand.

This is amazing. Anyone gonna comment on this? Basically its about Free Energy.

[Spurius]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Tiller

Come on, this has no real place in Atheneum, and you know it. He already got a Pigasus back in 1979 for saying the dumbest thing on parapsychology that year.

[Niles Crane]

Shouldn't the title be 'William Tiller - How intentions affect the world'?

[Lunar4]

The pigasus awards mean nothing. Theyre the same as some random TWCer dsicrediting him by saying "when pigs fly lololo". Maybe if they used actual scientific basis to discredit him.....

[Silver Guard]

The pigasus awards mean nothing. Theyre the same as some random TWCer dsicrediting him by saying "when pigs fly lololo". Maybe if they used actual scientific basis to discredit him.....

Oh please, he works by spewing psycho-babble in your face for as long as possible. When you get a glazed look in your eye he says "see?" and you have to agree... by that point you'd agree to jump of a cliff if he said so.

[Lunar4]

Just because you lack the scientific knowledge to understand what he's talking about doesn't mean he's speakin gibberish. They dont tend to hire people who dont know what theyre saying at Stanford.

[Silver Guard]

Just because you lack the scientific knowledge to understand what he's talking about doesn't mean he's speakin gibberish.

And you do? Half the things he's saying are assumptions he's personally made, with no peer review, let alone scientific proof. His experiments are experimental themselves and I wouldn't doubt the reliability is refuted throughout the scientific community.

They dont tend to hire people who dont know what theyre saying at Stanford.

They hire people to teach in the most part. He may be a great teacher and still be superstitious.

[Lunar4]

prove they are assumptions. And id like to get someone actually well versed in Sciences to comment on this, such as Simetrical.

[Syron]

Wow, what a bastardization of science!

See the thing is about these higher-quality quacks is that they use scientific terminology in a fairly true and consistent way, but then relate it to things that have nothing to do with what is being said. And the problem is the people who they target don't have the knowledge to understand why what he is saying is nonsense.

I mean why do you think he goes on about trying to influence the general public before the scientific community will accept what he says? Surely if what he was saying had any real consistency the scientists would be the first to understand?

Just because you lack the scientific knowledge to understand what he's talking about doesn't mean he's speakin gibberish

And being able to quote long words does not in any way mean what you are saying makes real sense.

Quantum Chromodynamics!


Now bow before me!!!

[Spurius]

I'm afraid the burden of proof is on Mr. Tiller and he's convinced hardly anyone so far. Throwing up questions is one, proving something exists another.

But we don't have to prove him wrong. Nor that God/ectoplasm/[insert intangible here] does NOT exist. Same thing.

[Lunar4]

In the video he said he has a device capable of measuring this. He hasnt released it yet though... he needs to hurry up :|

[Ummagumma]

Emotion is a sub-atomic particle? And I always thought they were more to do with chemicals in the brain. Oh well. I wonder what all those glands and juices are for?

[Spurius]

Oh well. I wonder what all those glands and juices are for?

Here's the chemical reaction in a nutters' shell:

Cloud 9 -> Love Potion #9

[xxax]

This moron was in What the bleep do we know... Some scientist...

[Simetrical]

First of all, there are and always have been nutcases with Ph.D.'s in the sciences. They remain a very small minority and never actually convince anyone. It's true that some scientific theories that later proved to be correct were initially scorned, but

1. Such theories constitute a very small percentage of what are considered crackpot theories. Most theories that mainstream science considers groundless never turn out to be vindicated, and are considered groundless indefinitely.
2. Typically, the theories that turn out to be correct are initially scorned in large part because of lack of evidence. Once the theory's proponents gather up sufficient evidence, others rapidly become convinced. Or to put it another way, once the evidence is there, the theory is no longer considered a crackpot theory, as it shouldn't be; before the evidence is there, it's considered groundless because it is. In both cases the scientific community's consensus is well-founded, even if of course it may occasionally prove to be wrong.

Generally speaking, pointing to a tiny minority of scientists who agree with you is evidence against you, not for you, because the overwhelming majority of scientists disagree with you.

Second of all, I should observe that Tiller became a professor at Stanford in 1964, and only received the Pigasus Award in 1979. Typically, someone who's a professor at a college for seven years or so becomes tenured, and cannot be disowned even if they start spouting complete nonsense. Tiller's professorship at Stanford indicates that at some point in the past he was a serious physicist, but doesn't mean that his fellow physicists there think that his current theories are anything but nonsense.

I watched a few minutes of the posted videos. I see nothing to distinguish him from any other nutjob. He speaks about extensively-tested and universally discredited things like acupuncture meridians as though they were fact, and throws in random physics word like "symmetry state", "free-energy state", and "entangled". I don't see anywhere where he discusses predictions of his theory or how it differs or disagrees with (or, alternatively, expands upon) conventional science in any concrete sense, and so I have no way of further evaluating anything he says.

When asked for a practical discussion of what his theory means, he starts talking about "connectivity between the atom-molecule level of reality and the vacuum level of reality", a phrase that as far as I'm aware contains no scientifically-accepted terms except "atom", "molecule", and "vacuum". He continues to toss out things that sound like they might be vaguely empirical, but he identifies no problems with current theories that I see, and certainly doesn't state how his theory solves them. Essentially, everything he's saying in the videos is gibberish, at least up through about minute six of the first, which is all I bothered to watch. I looked over a description of his film What the Bleep Do We Know!?, and saw more of the same.

So, yes, complete crackpot, nothing to see here. He has a physics professorship, but Isaac Newton was an alchemist, too.