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    Hello,
    Here is a couple of things I think about for the next generation.

    Christian orders in Europe :

    That would be great to see different religious orders associated with special buildings or specific settlements :

    Fransiscan Monastery (one building per faction at the beginning, undestructible) : gives access to Dominican monks, boosting purity traits, but decrease all character traits associated with money (decrease trade, ect). This order would mainly add difficulty to the game, as something to deal with. A script could give access to a conversion of the Fransiscan Monastery to a Benedictine one around 1200-1300.
    Could also trigger a crusade against the settlement they are implented.

    Benedictine Monastery : giving access to Benedictine monks, boost political and religious character traits.

    Dominican Monastery : giving access to Dominican monks, specialized in fighting heresy.

    Late period :

    the Jesuit order : Jesuit priests, hugely boost educational character traits. Very good at conversion.

    Then all these features could dynamically interact with the pope depending on its own original order (a beneditine pope could favorize a faction rich in benedictine monasteries, ect)

    I could try to code a mini mod if enough people support this idea. What do you think ?
    Last edited by aleph2007; January 28, 2008 at 05:51 AM.

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    Man, you missed this thread?

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    Will no one revenge me of the injuries I have sustained from one turbulent priest?
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    I hate priest...
    I think BC got it right on this one




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    Quote Originally Posted by y2day View Post
    Will no one revenge me of the injuries I have sustained from one turbulent priest?
    -- King Henry II of England, speaking of Thomas À Becket



    I hate priest...
    I think BC got it right on this one
    Don't get me wrong. I'm not a priest fan. I just think it would improve the "flavour of Medieval times"
    Orders were quite important in this times.

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    The idea is very good .

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    Awesome idea actuallt. Unlike all of you i am a "priest fan" (RCC) the Orders were hisstorically very important
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pope Gregorius I View Post
    Awesome idea actuallt. Unlike all of you i am a "priest fan" (RCC) the Orders were hisstorically very important
    But I doubt they'd be allowed to preach in Orthodox or Muslim nations, and vice versa.

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    I am the Priest fan, but don't dig what it has to do with the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echad View Post
    I am the Priest fan, but don't dig what it has to do with the game.
    Variety, diversity, and this unequaled flavour of the early Middle age

    Seriously, Christianity in the game is thought as a homogeneous and servile community while it was everything but uniform. Special Buildings like monasteries could trigger interesting missions (scripted like guilds) that would not necesserily serve the interest of the player.
    Monastic Orders had their own interests that often went against the crown.

    Basically, it's about restituing the constant undergoing conflicts between the church and the politics that went on for 500 years !!!

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    If you add something to European factions you would need to add something similar to other ones as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by spanish_emperor View Post
    If you add something to European factions you would need to add something similar to other ones as well
    not necessary .I never play the muslim factions .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracula View Post
    not necessary .I never play the muslim factions .


    Other people do though...

    I know for a fact there are a ton of Turkish TW players who tend to go for their native faction. I also enjoy playing as the Turks from time to time, and if Muslim factions are going to appear in SS 6.0 (which they will, obviously), they should be comprehensively worked on as much as the quintessential European factions (England, France, Spain, HRE, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamanz View Post

    if Muslim factions are going to appear in SS 6.0 (which they will, obviously), they should be comprehensively worked on as much as the quintessential European factions (England, France, Spain, HRE, etc.)
    I totally agree, I love playing Turks as well, and the Fatimids too

    We could first create the chiites and the sunites.

    But I'm open to all propositions for possible differents muslim orders and Orthodox orders that could be added.
    Feel free to help !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracula View Post
    not necessary .I never play the muslim factions .
    Me too.Hate islamic factions
    Last edited by CrusaderSergeant; January 31, 2008 at 06:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracula View Post
    not necessary .I never play the muslim factions .
    Your sig reminds me....


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    this is plain stupid .The talking snake is an allegory of the devil .So are the other things not understood literally .

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    a scientist would say the same about your sig .

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    Default Re: Christian orders in SS 6

    There are ...different scientists.

    Guys, please, cut it - there are appropriate topics for discussing religion, and this is a mod forum... =\

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    I think the muslims should just get the dome of the rock which would basically add a lot of traits and no negative ones. (just a rock after all. ) But there would only be one of it.

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    well in reality priests and their lands were under pope control, although many like the holy roman emperor fought against this saying that the priest in HRE were under his control. So did the French, isn't why there were two popes at one time???

    So maybe all priests sould be under pope control....but that would destroy gameplay i think
    "we're way way pre-alpha and what that means is there is loads of features not just in terms of the graphics but also in terms of the combat and animations that actually aren't in the game yet.So the final game is actually gonna look way way better than this!” - James Russell, CA
    Just like the elephant animation, this Carthage scenario is actually in the game, it just has a small percantage factor for showing up, that's all...

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