Region Fix by SJ

[-Aquila-]

There was one thing I dont like about Vanilla Medieval 2 which SS didnt change-even though it doesnt affect game play I think it affects the feel of the game. So I decided to find province names for every province to make them seound more 'real'.



To install all you have to do is copy this file into this directory: SEGA, Medieval 2 Total War, Mods, SS, Data, Text.

REMEMBER TO BACKUP THE ORIGINAL FILE.

Changing this doesn't affect saves - Didn't affect my save files, so it shouldn't affect yours. Always remember to keep a backup of the save if you want to make sure.



Corrections are welcome, especially from the regions' native inhabitants!

[hellfire15]

nice!

[-Aquila-]

thanks mate, hope you like it!


As I said in post if you find any province names you think that should be changed (and you have the name to change it to, pls tell me).

[alexs257]

Thanks Johnny, just got SS, loving it so far

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Forgot to say before but this is for !EARLY ERA ONLY!



havnt been able to test late era due to problems I am having with the late era.

[Echad]

So it works? I tried to do it myself but failed... You're alright if I'll include it in the 2.00 Fix Pack? Seems like the 2.00 will be really special. =)

[-Aquila-]

Yeah it works-I played a couple of turns, all the regions names are changed nothing went wrong etc-but always keep a backup to be on the safe side, lol. Yeah im fine with you added it to 2.0 (as long as i get credit for it, lol) - goning to hopfully have new versions etc when I find better names for certain regions (mainly the Musilm world and Russia), Europe seems to about,id say 95% correct.

[Echad]

I will dig about Rus' myself... As I live here. =)

Will now install and check it, as I haven't done it b4.

For your information, the names that look like changed names of cities, such as Ryazanskaya are really just adjectives, based on the city name, and are not correct... The Russian "Ryazanskaya Oblast'" (Рязанская Область), which stands for "Ryazan' Region", would be the correct full name, while simply the adjective "Ryazanskaya" will be wrong.

[Echad]

I will post changes here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...&postcount=439

P.S. "Velikaya" is not Pskov's region name, it jsut means "Great". =\ And is the name of the river on which Pskov stands, so we can name the region "Velikaya River"...

[aleph2007]

It's nice someone did this.
However, I must warn you there is a couple of mistakes about France. Here is what should be used :

Rennes Province : Britanny (ok)
Anger Province : Anjou
Paris Province : Ile de France
Rheins Province : Champagne
Caen Province : Normandy (ok)
Metz Province : Lorraine
Lyon Province : Dauphine
Marseille Province : Provence
Clermont Province : Auvergne
Toulouse Province : Gascony
Bordeaux Province : Aquitaine

[Echad]

Thanks - I am in the process of editing and fixing it, already changed a lot concerning ex-USSR...

Guys, all post mistakes, you will be credited, when I'll will put up the final version and use it for 2.00 Fix Pack... Some of the changes I've already done are written on Fix Pack thread.

SJ - you should've used the historical names for regions and not the modern ones... You have such mistake with France and with Wales.

[aleph2007]

All the names I gave are historical
The only one that can be discussed is Dauphine since the land located south of Lyon was the Dauphine and the one located north was part of burgundy.. So the province of lyon as presented in the SS map is a historical non sense. But I suppose it can be associated with Dauphine since the city was under its political influence. It is good to keep it because if it was not politically influent, it was an important religious center and a huge economical center in the late period.

Maybe, to add coherence, you could turn everything to French :

Burgundy -> Bourgogne
Brittany -> Bretagne
Gascony -> Gascogne
Dauphine -> Dauphiné
Normandy -> Normandie

but that's a detail. Keep going this is a very good job ! :-)

[Echad]

All the names I gave are historical

Yes, I know, I checked.

The only one that can be discussed is Dauphine since the land located south of Lyon was the Dauphine and the one located north was part of burgundy.. So the province of lyon as presented in the SS map is a historical non sense. But I suppose it can be associated with Dauphine since the city was under its political influence. It is good to keep it because if it was not politically influent, it was an important religious center and a huge economical center in the late period.

Maybe, to add coherence, you could turn everything to French :

Burgundy -> Bourgogne
Brittany -> Bretagne
Gascony -> Gascogne
Dauphine -> Dauphiné
Normandy -> Normandie

but that's a detail. Keep going this is a very good job ! :-)

Well, the Native names would be too much... For now.

I miss the old days of Shogun/Medieval, when the settlements were defined by region and not city. =) Will make some more changes, wondering on the Nordic and Islamic names, will make my mind of ex-USSR ones and the Holy Land myself.

Edit: To SJ:

And Phoenicia _as a region_ is not Tunisia, Phoenicia is the region with Tyre and Sidon! While the nation moved to Carthage, the region haven't moved with them! =\

[-Aquila-]

You sure I made a misstake with Wales? Oh I thought I did it correctly. Oh well, aslong as it is all right in the end. I said I wasnt sure with the muslim areas, it couldnt find a lear answer on what it was called then let alone now!

[Echad]

Well, you called it Gwynedd, while the region began to be called such only recently... Here's my file, although WiP, it's the modification of yours.

You just searched for modern regions, as can be examplified by France, and shoul've searched for historical ones.

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Oh sorry, but the rest o my work fine. Yeah?

[Gorrrrrn]

*cough*

re Gwynedd.

It is the correct historical name for the region of north Wales during our game period.

see wikipedia entry for Llywelyn Fawr:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_the_Great

(PS I live in Wales.)

[-Aquila-]

So I DID get it right then. Oh im confused now lol!

[Echad]

Compare them... Whole France and most of ex-USSR were changed by me, along with some unrealated regions. This is a Work in Progress still, so I will do more corrections and changes on the go...

Oh, so it Actually was a separate Kingdom... They just returned the old name now then.

Thanks for info, I am hoping to get more of that kind of info, especially from the natives! =)

[Echad]

Well, we all are... =) The disclaimer should work, can you update the first post with something like:

"Corrections are welcome, especially from the regions' native inhabitants!"