numidia

[gg_wong]

ok, any tips please? i just want a challenge, chartage is just being pure gay by asking me to be protecorate and then attacking me again in the same turn. i just like underdog factions, been playing for like 2hours and all the time crushed within 20-30turns

[AqD]

You could make a counter offer for being a protecorate - usually AI would offer a lot of money for it. 10,000 is usually acceptable, but 15,000 isn't.

Then you can build your army, siege their poor-defended cities, exterminate the population, and destroy all the buildings, and then move to next city.
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[Brusilov]

The Numidian light troops (Berber Javelin and Light Horse) are a nightmare to fight against. Use them to your advantage - attack from a distance, make Carthage run all over the battlefield and tire them out. When troops are tired (your light troops won't be as tired) they are fairly easy to rout.

I was going to suggest reading an AAR with the Numidian faction but there doesn't appear to be one in this forum.

As aqd has suggested ask for lots of money when they ask for you to become their protectorate and use it wisely.

Edited: I presume you did read how difficult the faction was to play on the campaign menu? What difficulty level are you playing at?

[gg_wong]

i know its the hardest faction to play, i play on medium/medium

so when they ask me to be protectorate, i ask for money?

[Nuba]

hmm i prefer to play on very hard /very hard with every race and the numibians arent that hard. i wouldnt suggest you to become protectorat and demand money because its boring and seems to me more like a bug than relistic. and it makes it soooo easy (and you wanted to have a challenge). one possible way is to build some jevelineers and get your best boss and march against thapsus and get a spy with you. when you are lucky the door is open if not...wait a turn. the first rounds your aim is to survive and it is possible. when you captured thapsus slave it and march against hadrumentum. here capture it and burn it . and never forget to destroy the baracks. because when you loose those cities again he cant refit or build troops there. now you should have some money for troops mercs etc. and continue that way. ahh yeah i prefer to kick the nasty expensive cavalery in the begining. and try to get as faast as possible the mines and roads. good luck try also the parthians because they have very nice neighbours and long refitting ways (luckily someone added several auxis around there) and hardly money (not so much trade)...

[Brusilov]

so when they ask me to be protectorate, i ask for money?

Yes, definitely ask for money. Sometimes the AI is very silly, a diplomat will demand you become a protectorate and then the very next turn you are attacked again. I guess asking for money in the knowledge that you will be attacked will break some player's 'house rules'.

As Nuba has posted it would be better to not be a protectorate, however, if you think that's the only way out of a desperate position then do so.

I know some players have done very well as Numidia. I wonder if they have played RTR PE with the land blocks between Carthage and the Ptolemaics? I presume if the land block is in place Carthage has no where else to go in the game. I prefer to play without them (especially when playing Bactria).

[AqD]

Well in my experience parthians are not so hard because you have cheap HAs and cataphracts which can charge enemies even under your massive missile fire. Basically you could win every battle, or retreat without casuality but inflicts huge damage on enemies.

Try armenia or pontus - they're a lot harder by facing several enemies at the same time and have no super unit like parthian/sarmatian HAs or roman legionaries.
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[Nuba]

i dont know which version or lvl you play. you are right the catas and has are nice but also expensive and you cant afford many of them. and yes you can volley the enemy to death. but what i meant with its harder than numibian is:

1. numibian is only in around the first 20 turns critical but when you have most or all of africa you are invicible...if so you do something wrong.

2. you have much more money as numibian because you have the great seatrade.

3. as parthian you have the "nice" seleukids as neighbour which at least e all the time attacked.

you are right it isnt to hard but there are several situations where when i compare them had more probs as with the numibians. one nice thing is that there are several auxillaries without them it would be harder. and 1 temple isnt the best for keeping the people happy

and to the armenian and pontus part...are you kidding? pontus is really easy they have a great tech-tree and really nice units they even get as you call it "superunit" legionaries like uints. they also have in both startregions mines and grain. armenian a bit harder. also nice units like catas and have in both startregions grain. and when you kill as pontus the armenian or otherwise you are safe. so i really hope you kidded...isnt compareable or did you never played them? than it would be ok

[Nuba]

ups should had updated the side . the post was related to aqds.

to brusilov i remember when the borders had been open. and i miss it also when i play several factions. like the ptolomaic-border. hardly any army came and you could march there without having probs on the sea and show the the pharao what real men are . and as bactria squeeze the parthian what you so or so should do and build a ship and go there its same effective . try to make the best out of it. but i dont bother about it because there are several things which could be done better. and i really like the game. i play it now since hmm 4 years or so...that says all

[Brusilov]

to brusilov i remember when the borders had been open. and i miss it also when i play several factions. like the ptolomaic-border. hardly any army came and you could march there without having probs on the sea and show the the pharao what real men are . and as bactria squeeze the parthian what you so or so should do and build a ship and go there its same effective . try to make the best out of it. but i dont bother about it because there are several things which could be done better. and i really like the game. i play it now since hmm 4 years or so...that says all

Part of the official add-ons for RTR PE is the ability to remove the land blocks. If you don't want them you can download and install which ones you want.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...97&postcount=1

[Nuba]

Part of the official add-ons for RTR PE is the ability to remove the land blocks. If you don't want them you can download and install which ones you want.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...97&postcount=1

ahh good to know thx.

[AqD]

and to the armenian and pontus part...are you kidding? pontus is really easy they have a great tech-tree and really nice units they even get as you call it "superunit" legionaries like uints. they also have in both startregions mines and grain. armenian a bit harder. also nice units like catas and have in both startregions grain. and when you kill as pontus the armenian or otherwise you are safe. so i really hope you kidded...isnt compareable or did you never played them? than it would be ok

Well I'm playing RTR with 0-turn recruitment, so things may be different. In my armenia campaign I can only survive the first turns by diplomacy (which I consider is *hard* because it needs some luck), and I can see the pontus is under heavy attack by seleucids - which could make a full stack of armies in just every turn, and it throws entire military resource to kick the pontus. Pontus lives because I haven't attacked it yet and seleucids is losing all its cities to me and parthian quickly.

They both have legionaries, but inferior to roman's, and they cannot stand against hypasists and macedon/seleucid swordman one on one. In parthian campaign it's a lot easier because seleucid barely send any army to fight me, so I can ignore them and destroy the bactrians and get a lot of *safe* cities, which nobody could possibly attack (thx to the landlock )
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[Nuba]

Well I'm playing RTR with 0-turn recruitment, so things may be different. In my armenia campaign I can only survive the first turns by diplomacy (which I consider is *hard* because it needs some luck), and I can see the pontus is under heavy attack by seleucids - which could make a full stack of armies in just every turn, and it throws entire military resource to kick the pontus. Pontus lives because I haven't attacked it yet and seleucids is losing all its cities to me and parthian quickly.

i hope you mean with rtr like me the rtr 1.9 platinum editon . and hmm i also use the 0 turn recruitment and ok i build new ones. but i bet you do it too . and from my point of view its a mistake to let the pontus be alive because they have nice regions.and easy to handle=no culture penality etc. but i sadly had never the luck that the seleceuds throw all their armies against someone else they mostly march against me. i think you also play on vh/vh. so hmm im bad lucked

They both have legionaries, but inferior to roman's, and they cannot stand against hypasists and macedon/seleucid swordman one on one. In parthian campaign it's a lot easier because seleucid barely send any army to fight me, so I can ignore them and destroy the bactrians and get a lot of *safe* cities, which nobody could possibly attack (thx to the landlock )

and i hope they cant stand against them as the others are much more expensive and elite. like you dont want that a 300 $ unit dont kills your 600$ unit 1vs1 and as i said i wonder because the ai is always concentrating on me with most of the troops...

[AqD]

i hope you mean with rtr like me the rtr 1.9 platinum editon . and hmm i also use the 0 turn recruitment and ok i build new ones. but i bet you do it too . and from my point of view its a mistake to let the pontus be alive because they have nice regions.and easy to handle=no culture penality etc. but i sadly had never the luck that the seleceuds throw all their armies against someone else they mostly march against me. i think you also play on vh/vh. so hmm im bad lucked

yeah it's rtr 1.9 pe but I'm quiet a noob so only VH/M or M/M for me

It's played on rometw-alx where AI constantly retrain their troops, I never think I could win on VH/VH as armenian/pontus because those golden hypasists/swordmen are really unmatched in their killing speed (btw i also doubled the size for their high cost)
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[rubleep]

How do you get 0-turn recruitment in RTR PE v1.9?

[Quinn Inuit]

Brusilov's right: Berber Javs and Numidian light cav are a terror to fight (although the Numidians don't seem to be as useful in TIC). They can really tear you up if you're not careful. Use the Numidians to double-team and destroy their HC, then the Berbers to kill off their LC and rain death on their infantry.


Update: I've noticed in my test games that Carthage always stomps Numidia, gets kicked out of Iberia by the locals, Italy by either Rome or Epirus, and frequently Sicily by the Greeks, and then they just don't seem to do much. Hmmm...oh, I know. I don't think Gades is in their win conditions. I'll give that a try.

[gg_wong]

is there any way to kill carthage as numidia without exploiting the protectorate issue? ive been stomping carthage with the money demanding... however if i dont use money numidia is pretty much dead after 20 turns 30 if your lucky and capsa holds out

[Nuba]

is there any way to kill carthage as numidia without exploiting the protectorate issue? ive been stomping carthage with the money demanding... however if i dont use money numidia is pretty much dead after 20 turns 30 if your lucky and capsa holds out

as i wrote a few posts before. its a way which always works. and i dont use cavalery because it is to expensive and costs space you have only 20 slots but in the begining it doesnt matter there you need the javelins to volley them death

[AqD]

try hit-and-run tactics?

use only light skirmisher cavalry, go into battle and throw all javelins, after you're done, retreat. You lose the battle without casuality, and in next turn you come again and then retreat (if they don't die out)

you cannot win without exploiting things that AI doesn't do
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[AqD]

You can do it by editing Data\export_descr_unit.txt

But if you just change every unit to 0-turn recruitment, the campaign balance would be ruined - or you can try my mini-mod (<= shameless self-advertising )
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