what about Teutonic Knights in BC???

[KaerMorhen]

I just wonder why makers of such awesome mod as BC didn't implement Teutonic Knights along Hospitallers and Templars???. Sure Teutons didn't have such impact like those two but did exist in Holy Land and in Kingdom of Armenia and participated in combat to stop the march of Islam. I'm just curious.

[Achilla]

I just wonder why makers of such awesome mod as BC didn't implement Teutonic Knights along Hospitallers and Templars???. Sure Teutons didn't have such impact like those two but did exist in Holy Land and in Kingdom of Armenia and participated in combat to stop the march of Islam. I'm just curious.

Maybe they will be avaible as mercenaries when BC ports to Kingdoms. Atm AD had to quit and there is nobody to make new textures/skins for new units. Since Kingdoms adds a lot of skins including teutons mostly and some fine crusader skins there will be no problem in that. Atm top priority is to make BC stable, as it is now not, so expect in near future a lot of bug fixes rather than adding new content. Time will show.

[Taneda Santôka]

Atm top priority is to make BC stable, as it is now not, so expect in near future a lot of bug fixes rather than adding new content.

Some balance and typo issues dont make this mod unstable ... It's as stable as vanilla.

And teutonic order is just a persistent crowd favourite, go figure why...:hmmm:

[Achilla]

Some balance and typo issues dont make this mod unstable ... It's as stable as vanilla.

And teutonic order is just a persistent crowd favourite, go figure why...:hmmm:

By saying stable I mean that I can just start a campaign and no longer worry about bugs, overpowered assasins and other things of that kind. Also there a lot of CTD crashes and some people are having serious troubles getting BC to work, even discluding Vista issue.

[Lamanz]

Some balance and typo issues dont make this mod unstable ... It's as stable as vanilla.

And teutonic order is just a persistent crowd favourite, go figure why...:hmmm:

Must be the funny hats

[the42up]

well the history of the teutonic order deals with primarily kicking lithuanian's around...not muslims.

[Aeimnestus]

I think most people love the Teutonic Knights because they are the closest thing to the "Black Knight" image, (apart from Black Knights themselves but those were individuals, and thus cannot be represented in TW)

well the history of the teutonic order deals with primarily kicking lithuanian's around...not muslims.

True, but they also were around in the holy land.

[Jush]

Actually, you can recruit them I've found out recently...


I started a H/H Armenia campaign, and with my first turn took Antioch. I had to scrounge my entire empire's troops together to do it, but it worked. Anyway, I looked at the building browser for Antioch, and I saw that if I built the highest level of stables, I would be able to train Teutonic Knights! It said it right there, had the unit card and everything. Might just be a Armenia thing, but other people could check it out if they wanted.

[Darkarbiter]

Maybe they will be avaible as mercenaries when BC ports to Kingdoms. Atm AD had to quit and there is nobody to make new textures/skins for new units. Since Kingdoms adds a lot of skins including teutons mostly and some fine crusader skins there will be no problem in that. Atm top priority is to make BC stable, as it is now not, so expect in near future a lot of bug fixes rather than adding new content. Time will show.

I thought strelec does the models and skins now?

[Son of Mao]

Maybe they will be avaible as mercenaries when BC ports to Kingdoms. Atm AD had to quit and there is nobody to make new textures/skins for new units. Since Kingdoms adds a lot of skins including teutons mostly and some fine crusader skins there will be no problem in that. Atm top priority is to make BC stable, as it is now not, so expect in near future a lot of bug fixes rather than adding new content. Time will show.

What about Strelac

[Dead*Man*Wilson]

I remember a member named REX COBALT made some absolutely dazzling Teutonic skins awhile back. They were very realistically textured and would havebeen great to use,but I never got them properly installed.

[anaztazioch]

Teutonic Knights in Antioch ? Shouldnt they be restricted to Jerusalem and Acre ?

[John I Tzimisces]

We know that Teutonic knights had a presence at least in Cilicia.

Considering Levon the Magnificent, king of Armenia in Cilicia, was a founding member of the order.

[MagyarMatt]

I just wonder why makers of such awesome mod as BC didn't implement Teutonic Knights along Hospitallers and Templars???. Sure Teutons didn't have such impact like those two but did exist in Holy Land and in Kingdom of Armenia and participated in combat to stop the march of Islam. I'm just curious.

At the end of the day a lot of factions had a military presence of some level or other in the holy lands and you could argue a case for just about anyone. I'd like to see BC move forwards in terms of game play and additonal units for existing factions which are fine as they are without any newcomers.

[KaerMorhen]

At the end of the day a lot of factions had a military presence of some level or other in the holy lands and you could argue a case for just about anyone. I'd like to see BC move forwards in terms of game play and additonal units for existing factions which are fine as they are without any newcomers.

Tbh I can hardly imagine Teutonic Order (Ordo domus Sanctæ Mariæ Theutonicorum Ierosolimitanorum)
as minor insignificant faction in Holy Land?, not as powerful and recognized as Templars or Hospitallers for sure but still hold key role in remains of KoJ and nearby regions. There should be possibility to build chapter house of theirs in the city of Acre according to historical accuracy.
Skins and other stuff could be imported from M2TW or Kingdoms and case is closed.

[Osskssa]

BC uses only units made by BC skinners,dont think they will put a vanilla(kingdoms) skin in.Tbh dont think the Teutonic Order did much in the holy land,unless you think being toll collectors in the port of Acre important :p.They were far more influential in transylvania(fighting the Cumans) and ofc in the baltic states coverting pagans.

[Achilla]

BC uses only units made by BC skinners,dont think they will put a vanilla(kingdoms) skin in.

You are propably right on this one, atm only mongols are vanilla-based and in the future we may expect new ones for them. Some of the skins done by Kalos look promising, yet propably Strelac will make his own ones. Looking forward for some more "mongol" mongols =)

btw, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...38&postcount=1

I remember a member named REX COBALT made some absolutely dazzling Teutonic skins awhile back. They were very realistically textured and would havebeen great to use,but I never got them properly installed.

link please?

[KaerMorhen]

BC uses only units made by BC skinners,dont think they will put a vanilla(kingdoms) skin in.Tbh dont think the Teutonic Order did much in the holy land,unless you think being toll collectors in the port of Acre important :p.They were far more influential in transylvania(fighting the Cumans) and ofc in the baltic states coverting pagans.

how many times I have to repeat that it is obvious that Teutonic Order was less important/influential than 'big two'??? - and this is exactly why I think they'd have one chapter house at least - Antioch; Acre or Taras but I understand and respect BC team for using only themselves made skins and models.

[whhyy]

If anyone is interested, I was just searching through export_descr_unit.txt and I found some BC Teutonic knights, they're only for Armenia. They don't have a new model or anything, though. :hmmm:

[whhyy]

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. The Teutonic knights are in but you cannot access them. But they do belong to Armenia.