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    So most of our princess start off with 2-4 charm, not enough to be worth anything. I will explain how to raise their charm easily and quickly, and the best ways to use them.

    The way to raise them is to simply use them as you would a diplomat. Send them across the world making all of your alliances. Click the icon in the bottom left side of the window when you are using the princess and right clicking an enemy settlement, this brings you to straight diplomacy. Arranging trade rights and alliances raises your charm.

    Now, when youve gotter her as high up in charm as you can, you have yourself a very useful and secret weapon in this game that is not spoken about much. You can trade this princess "in" (to the game) and get an enemy character with high stats into your own family, for you to control. You can even do this with Faction Heirs of other factions if they arent married. I dont know about Kings, I never seen a bachelor King to try it on.

    So, to take an enemy character as your own, simply right click on the settlement he is in, or on him directly if he is in the field on the campaign map. It'll give you a percentile chance, the higher your charm, the higher the chance. If you max charm, hearts if you havent figured that out yet, most characters will be close or near 100% chance of success. If you fail, you lose the princess, but dont get the character.

    Another application of high charm princess is this. You can marry them to another faction, if they have an heir that isnt married, through the diplomacy screen. Some of you say big deal? But if you goto the Factions tab where it shows who is at war/allied with whom, youll see that it tells you have many marriage alliances you have with that faction in addition to simply being "allied" with them. So, if you marry off 2 princesses to two different English heirs at two times in the game, youll have 2 marriage alliances with England, so long as you havent gone to war with them in the meantime. Although I have no proof, marriage alliances are supposed to make an alliance stronger with less chance of the ally backstabbing you.

    Or, if you have an eligle prince, your diplomat can arrange a similar marriage with the enemy faction if they have an eligble princess; tip; look for the ones with real high charm and only go after those, you get good traits. It's my theory that the charm and the father's stats affect the chances of the offspring being good characters stat wise initially, but I doubt that is true.

    The third way to use them wisely is as such. You can rake up the charm level of your princess and then marry her to one of your own eligble characters, generals OR family members. This is good because you may have a high level general with great stats who is young and has no wife; what better than to make him a potential heir, as well as give him some additional traits, than by marrying him into the royal family?

    I hope this helped SOMEBODY .. lol
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    Mmm.. That's pretty but I just want to know whether if we can use princess as agents in islamic nations. Do you know if we can do it? And how do they appear?

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    Thank you for that. I think I knew most of it already tho.. The hard part is that you want to raise the princess charm high before she's too old to marry anyone.
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    Me, I'm extremely cheesy. As soon as a princess comes of age, it's straight to the console:


    give_trait this PrettyWoman3
    give_trait this FertileWoman3
    give_trait this PassionateWoman3
    give_trait this EducatedWoman3
    give_trait this FairWoman3
    give_trait this BraveWoman2
    give_trait this DykeWoman1


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    Default Re: Advanced Usage of Princesses..

    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan View Post
    Me, I'm extremely cheesy. As soon as a princess comes of age, it's straight to the console:


    give_trait this PrettyWoman3
    give_trait this FertileWoman3
    give_trait this PassionateWoman3
    give_trait this EducatedWoman3
    give_trait this FairWoman3
    give_trait this BraveWoman2
    give_trait this DykeWoman1

    That is indeed cheesy!
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    I had a marriage allience with France in my Portugal Campaign, and France of course back stabbed me in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Sulieman_YHWH View Post
    Or, if you have an eligle prince, your diplomat can arrange a similar marriage with the enemy faction if they have an eligble princess; tip; look for the ones with real high charm and only go after those, you get good traits. It's my theory that the charm and the father's stats affect the chances of the offspring being good characters stat wise initially, but I doubt that is true.

    The third way to use them wisely is as such. You can rake up the charm level of your princess and then marry her to one of your own eligble characters, generals OR family members. This is good because you may have a high level general with great stats who is young and has no wife; what better than to make him a potential heir, as well as give him some additional traits, than by marrying him into the royal family?

    I hope this helped SOMEBODY .. lol
    The traits of a father have an effect on the princesses traits/retinue. Having a prim father can give them the chastity belt. An ugly father leads to an ugly princess (a handsome father gives a handsome princess). Having an intelligent father gives the educated trait to your princess. An ignorant father can give you the VapidWoman trait. Having a sexual predator as a father will give similar traits to his traits. Etc. etc. there are a lot of triggers about princesses and their fathers.

    Marrying a princess to one of your own generals will give him more loyalty.

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    .. as well as indoctrinate the general into the royal family, as a potential heir if all the King's blood sons are killed before the King himself dies.

    I miss the good ole days of MTW1, when a marriage alliance, or plaine ole alliance, would give you a chunk of their empire when they lost their last family member/king. It was a good way to get provinces, but ive never seen a faction gain another one's provinces when it dies out, simply due to a royal marriage.
    Medieval II: Total War - Stainless Steel 4.1.
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    "No one has gone up into Heaven, except He having come down out of Heaven, the Son of Man who is in Heaven. And even as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -Book of John Ch. 3

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    Nope, they all go to the rebels. I even had some Arab rebels appear in the former capital of Portugal when they were destroyed.

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    The only problem with Princesses is that by mid game nearly every active enemy general is married, and any Princesses I get either have no traits or one negative trait. I've yet to get a Princess with at least four charm from coming at age.

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    Default Re: Advanced Usage of Princesses..

    Hmm, i think in vanilla princesses only started with like 1-3 charm. In SS it is like 4-6 and i am happy with that, they do not exist long enough on the map anyway

    Though too many princesses get 'Flawed Features' in SS in my experience

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