View Poll Results: Best Ideology is?

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  • Socialism

    12 8.51%
  • Conservatism

    28 19.86%
  • Communism

    4 2.84%
  • Femenism

    0 0%
  • Liberalism

    17 12.06%
  • Environmentalism

    3 2.13%
  • Facism

    12 8.51%
  • Ideologies based on religion, Zionism/Islamism and others

    1 0.71%
  • Nationalism

    8 5.67%
  • Anarchism

    5 3.55%
  • National Socialism

    3 2.13%
  • Social democracy

    28 19.86%
  • Others

    20 14.18%
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    Default Which ideology is the best?

    Vote for which ideology you think is the best and please tell why you think that specific ideology is the best.
    Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
    Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
    It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    There is no best ideology; only a least worst. I quite like liberalism, really. I love free speech, uncensored press, fair elections, free expression, capitalism and peoples rights.
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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    There is no best ideology; only a least worst. I quite like liberalism, really. I love free speech, uncensored press, fair elections, free expression, capitalism and peoples rights.
    Aha! So, if you were an American, you would be a conservative Republican, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    Aha! So, if you were an American, you would be a conservative Republican, then?
    Not really. More of a libertarian.
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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Not really. More of a libertarian.
    Since I basically trolled you, I thought your response would have been something different!

    However, Libertarian might also be a good answer to my question, although the parameters you gave fit conservatism very well. Remember that Libertarians include people such as yourself, and people who could barely be distinguished from Teddy Kennedy.

    Of course, the GOP includes people who call themselves conservatives, but were once governors, and Ted Kennedy would have liked them, too!

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    However, Libertarian might also be a good answer to my question, although the parameters you gave fit conservatism very well. Remember that Libertarians include people such as yourself, and people who could barely be distinguished from Teddy Kennedy.
    They may be a member of the party, but they're not "libertarian".

    Like how I'm a Republican but I'm a libertarian, I'm not a social conservative at all.

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    I voted for Socialism. I like to know that if I one day lose all my money through capitalism or if I am robbed, or if my house burns down there is a state that can provide me with a new home and welfare money so I can survive.

    But also the respect, man-woman=human. different ethnicities=human and all those unity things. Then the best with Socialism is that these thigns are mixed with free speech, uncensored press, multi-party elections free expression and a classless Society.
    Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
    Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
    It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Social democracy (which, in my view, includes strong emphasis on civil/social liberty).

    I win.

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    I chose Communism,Look at my profile picture and you will see why
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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Tsk, you forgot nihilism and solipsism.

    Gonna choose social democracy but only half hearted.
    Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Well those ideologies I have never heard of that is also why i created an " others" option. Because I am no damn wonderchild
    Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
    Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
    It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Bad poll. Where's the Taliban-esque Shariah Rule?
    I'd say socialism probably, we should help people less fortunate as much as possible, but money is the result of hard labour, thus it shouldn't all be taken from us and re-distributed ala communism.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Liberalism, in it's true form.

    But to avoid useless and boring debate, I'll call it: libertarianism.
    The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison

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    The taliban are expressing an extreme version of Islamism ( a mild version is AK party in Turkey) So it will fall under " Religious based ideologies"

    And Christian deocracy is one of them too!
    Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
    Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
    It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eranshahr View Post
    The taliban are expressing an extreme version of Islamism ( a mild version is AK party in Turkey) So it will fall under " Religious based ideologies"

    And Christian deocracy is one of them too!
    Nothing about the Taliban's Policies could be called Islamic. I don't recall the Surah in the Qur'an that says it is haram to eat Lobster, along with a collection of other things (Stoning, Mutilation, Cutting off people's hands, Shooting school children).

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Spamurai View Post
    Nothing about the Taliban's Policies could be called Islamic. I don't recall the Surah in the Qur'an that says it is haram to eat Lobster, along with a collection of other things (Stoning, Mutilation, Cutting off people's hands, Shooting school children).
    It's somewhere in the Limited Edition of the Qu'ran. Full of stuff that was edited out for copyright issues (Christianity's Pope's Dark Ages Limited Edition Bible, still unwrapped, already had the ''burn the heretic'' stuff)
    Last edited by Dr. Croccer; January 25, 2008 at 04:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Spamurai View Post
    Nothing about the Taliban's Policies could be called Islamic. I don't recall the Surah in the Qur'an that says it is haram to eat Lobster, along with a collection of other things (Stoning, Mutilation, Cutting off people's hands, Shooting school children).

    true, but the thing is there is no other name for islamism than islamism. So both teh AKP in Turkey practices it ( good islamists) and the Taliban in Afghanistan ( bad islamists) Just that they believe in different ways of ruling. another good example can be the Conservatists of Sweden, and the Conservatists of USA. or the Communists of N korea and the Communists of China. The same ideologies but still different ways of thinking and ruling.
    Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
    Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
    It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.

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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    What if you like multiple idealogies equally?

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    My own ideology which is libertarian(in its pure form) on the social side while rather right-wing on the defense side.
    I know it's unworkable in real life but in my mind it works just fine.


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    Default Re: Which ideology is the best?

    Socialism.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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