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    Questions for Evolutionists
    by Dr. Kent Hovind

    The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions. Some well-meaning but misguided people think evolution is a reasonable theory to explain man’s questions about the universe. Evolution is not a good theory—it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.

    1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

    2. Where did matter come from?

    3. Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

    4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

    5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

    6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

    7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

    8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

    9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

    10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

    11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

    12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

    13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?

    14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

    15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)? b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce? c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs? d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts? e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose? f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants? g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones? h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

    "Missing Link" Still Missing

    Imaginations certainly took flight over Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis, a birdlike fossil with a meat-eater’s tail that was spirited out of northeastern China, ‘discovered’ at a Tucson, Arizona, gem and mineral show last year, and displayed at the National Geographic Society in Washington, D.C. Some 110,000 visitors saw the exhibit, which closed January 17; millions more read about the find in November’s National Geographic. Now, paleontologists are eating crow. Instead of ‘a true missing link’ connecting dinosaurs to birds, the specimen appears to be a composite, its unusual appendage likely tacked on by a Chinese farmer, not evolution.

    "Archaeoraptor is hardly the first ‘missing link’ to snap under scrutiny. In 1912, fossil remains of an ancient hominid were found in England’s Piltdown quarries and quickly dubbed man’s apelike ancestor. It took decades to reveal the hoax." U.S. News & World Report, February 14, 2000

    "Darwin admitted that millions of ‘missing links,’ transitional life forms, would have to be discovered in the fossil record to prove the accuracy of his theory that all species had gradually evolved by chance mutation into new species. Unfortunately for his theory, despite hundreds of millions spent on searching for fossils worldwide for more than a century, the scientists have failed to locate a single missing link out of the millions that must exist if their theory of evolution is to be vindicated." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God

    "There are gaps in the fossil graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms, but where there is nothing whatsoever instead. No paleontologist . . . denies that this is so. It is simply a fact. Darwin’s theory and the fossil record are in conflict." David Berlinsky

    "Scientists concede that their most cherished theories are based on embarrassingly few fossil fragments and that huge gaps exist in the fossil record." Time magazine, Nov. 7, 1977

    "The evolutionists seem to know everything about the missing link except the fact that it is missing." G. K. Chesterton
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    Piltdown man?

    This is a joke, right?

    I guess a hoax or a scientific mistake must mean that you're right. Well, that's a YEC'ers line of thinking. I have a funny cartoon too, alas, but witty sayings prove nothing.



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    This is a joke!
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    This goes to show the many flaws of the theory of evolution. It tries to lay a solid foundation, but has holes that cannot be filled...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiano View Post
    This goes to show the many flaws of the theory of evolution. It tries to lay a solid foundation, but has holes that cannot be filled...
    Please, Dr. Lucius, with a P.H.D. in evolutionary biology explain...wait.

    Nevermind.

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    The other problem is that even those all of those in the picture above were proven false ppl still try to use certain ones and say this did happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDesra View Post
    The other problem is that even those all of those in the picture above were proven false ppl still try to use certain ones and say this did happen
    The only one I know of that was a mistake was Piltdown man. And, scientists at least admit mistakes, and that mistake doesn't disprove evolution. Also, you post questions by Kent Hovind. Mr. Hovind is not a doctor (he doesn't have a legitimate degree). Mr. Hovind is a criminal, and he is currently in prison. Half of those questions have nothing to do with evolution, anyway. Evolution is not cosmology, not physics, not philosophy.

    But the crux of the matter is, that you think, because of something that is currently unknown by science, that means that god did it. Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing View Post
    Please, Dr. Lucius, with a P.H.D. in evolutionary biology explain...wait.

    Nevermind.
    and once again we have proof of how rood atheists can be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar Knight View Post
    and once again we have proof of how rood atheists can be
    Rude? He claimed evolutionary theory has lots of holes...yet posts none, and I doubt a creationist is hardly an expert on evolution anyway. Please, there are rude, nasty, and scathing atheists out there, I am not one of them. I do, however, try to defend evolution vs. superstition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing View Post
    Rude? He claimed evolutionary theory has lots of holes...yet posts none, and I doubt a creationist is hardly an expert on evolution anyway. Please, there are rude, nasty, and scathing atheists out there, I am not one of them. I do, however, try to defend evolution vs. superstition.
    well maybe i was a little quick on the guns

    so, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiano View Post
    It tries to lay a solid foundation, but has holes that cannot be filled...
    IIRC the Bible has similar problems with even such simple things as genealogies (Christ descending from David via at least 2 different ways in different Gospels).

    At least science has the benefit of having to collect and order all data themselves, the Bible would seem to already have trouble maintaining simple lists.

    Doesn't seem to cause any Christian a world of grief, though.

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    BEHOLD.

    The god of the gaps. He gets weaker and weaker every day.
    One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
    -Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.

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    Wrong, Science actually proves God, the only reason I am posting is to get another view other then just secular people making topics. Pretty bias so I am presenting the other side, either I am saying stuff or I am pasting all the same view. I learned about evolution, all it is just speculation off a bone they saw or if something resembles a little of something else then that must be its ancestor, etc alot of nonsense yet people present the theory as fact although its merely a theory that has yet to be proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDesra View Post
    Wrong, Science actually proves God, the only reason I am posting is to get another view other then just secular people making topics. Pretty bias so I am presenting the other side, either I am saying stuff or I am pasting all the same view. I learned about evolution, all it is just speculation off a bone they saw or if something resembles a little of something else then that must be its ancestor, etc alot of nonsense yet people present the theory as fact although its merely a theory that has yet to be proven.
    It's clear you missed the science class where they explained what a scientific theory is. Did you miss it for your confirmation ceremony?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDesra View Post
    Science actually proves God
    Weighty words there - I would honestly love for you to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDesra View Post
    Wrong, Science actually proves God, the only reason I am posting is to get another view other then just secular people making topics.
    Science makes no such claim. Science is not philosophy, scientists are not philosophers.


    I learned about evolution, all it is just speculation off a bone they saw or if something resembles a little of something else then that must be its ancestor, etc alot of nonsense yet people present the theory as fact although its merely a theory that has yet to be proven.
    Another fundie that has no clue what a scientific Theory is. Gravity is a Theory as well.

    Also, that is not what evolution is about. Take a biology class in college for a taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing View Post

    Another fundie that has no clue what a scientific Theory is. Gravity is a Theory as well.

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    gravity is a scientific law.

    Spirius:
    "the Bible would seem to already have trouble maintaining simple lists."


    please quote the passage of the bible in question.


    also, the bible is pretty scientifically correct, it does say the earth is round...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul d View Post
    gravity is a scientific law.

    Spirius:
    "the Bible would seem to already have trouble maintaining simple lists."


    please quote the passage of the bible in question.


    also, the bible is pretty scientifically correct, it does say the earth is round...
    No gravity is a theory it is covered by Newtons Laws which ammusingly enough were not 100% correct instead gravity is based on Einstiens General theory of relativity . So gravity is as much as a theory as evolution. Also the bible is nowhere near been scientifically accurate I opened up my bible and started reading guess when the first error appears. Yep Genesis where god somehow makes evening and day without the sun which as you are no doubt aware is caused by the earths rotation around the sun (which is something the bible seems to forget). So please don't say the bible is scientifically accurate you can say the message is still true and i will respect you but please don't say the bible is historically or scientifaclly accurate.
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    Default Re: Oh yeah this is intellegent? (Evolution)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul d View Post
    gravity is a scientific law.
    It's a theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul d View Post
    please quote the passage of the bible in question.


    also, the bible is pretty scientifically correct, it does say the earth is round...
    It's Matthew and Luke, where Matthew gives his lineage to David via Mary, and Luke does so via Joseph.

    Jews use a matrilinear system, BTW.

    As to science, the Bible claims pi is exactly three, while it's obviously not.

    And what to make of other self-contradictory statements as in Hosea 13:4 -

    [4] Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

    Seems a bit rash to condemn others for not keeping their house in order...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDesra View Post
    Wrong, Science actually proves God, the only reason I am posting is to get another view other then just secular people making topics. Pretty bias so I am presenting the other side, either I am saying stuff or I am pasting all the same view. I learned about evolution, all it is just speculation off a bone they saw or if something resembles a little of something else then that must be its ancestor, etc alot of nonsense yet people present the theory as fact although its merely a theory that has yet to be proven.
    please show where science proves that there is some all-powerful, all-knowing divine being out in some far-away place with lots of clouds.
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