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    Default Problems With Scotland Campiagn.

    Hey people

    I recently started a Scotland campaign, and it was going well, but now im having problems.

    Heres the current position im in:



    As you can see I control Scotland and all its surounding islands, aswell as Castle Town, Chester, York, Lincoln, Nottingham, and Norwich.
    I have alliances with Ireland, the Barons Alliance, and Wales. I have wiped out the Norweigans and am concentrating on the English.

    At the beggining of the campaign, I was busy with the Norweigans and so I kept the English neutral so I didnt have to fight on two fronts. I also immedeatly made alliances with Ireland and Wales.
    By the time I had delt with the Norweigans, the Barons Alliance had formed. My allies, Ireland and Wales, immedeatly made alliances with them.
    So at this point I didnt attack my southern front, for risk of harming my alliances with Wales and Ireland. Instead I allied with the Barons Alliance, went around them, and attacked the English in the midlands.

    Now heres the problem:
    Wales have a decent size force near one of my provinces, Castle Town. Thats on a small island off the coast of south western Scotland. This clearly isnt an attack preperation, because the army was there even before the province was mine, and has just stayed there.
    Ireland have a decent size force near another of my provinces, the Isle of Islay. Neither of these forces are hostile at the moment.
    I want to bridge my English provinces with my Scottish provinces by taking out the Barons Alliance in between. However when I end my alliance with a diplomat with the Barons Alliance, the Welsh and Irish forces on my relitivly unmanned islands attack, and take my land.

    Does anyone know how I could take out the Barons Alliance, without harming my friendship with Ireland and Wales?
    Or maybe you think I should do something completly different?

    Sorry for the rediculously sized question, but it needed to all be explained

    XKillerX

    PS this is my first post so hi to you all
    Last edited by Mr Harold; January 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM.

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    Hi.

    It seems to me that if you know whats going to happen, you can defend against it. Dont break off with the Barons Alliance just yet, instead build up forces ready to defend against the Welsh and Irish invasion. Once you have the necessary safeguards in place then go ahead and start your war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Spanky View Post
    Hi.

    It seems to me that if you know whats going to happen, you can defend against it. Dont break off with the Barons Alliance just yet, instead build up forces ready to defend against the Welsh and Irish invasion. Once you have the necessary safeguards in place then go ahead and start your war.
    Hi Captain Spanky

    I like your idea, and thankyou for replying, but that would mean war on all fronts. Id prefer to be able to kill off the Barons Alliance, and have no hostillities with Ireland or Wales.
    I could probobly handle Wales actually but not Ireland just yet.

    XKillerX

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    I see your point, but the way I understand it, the only thing stopping them from attacking you is your friendship to the Barons. Either stay friends with them or face em all I'm afraid.

    Its worth pointing out however, that defensive wars tend to be cheaper than offensive ones, so depending on your skill and your finances, you could probably manage.

    However, I wouldn't recommend this. Just keep pounding the English, and if you have enough money then you can simply bribe a settlement, linking the two parts of your empire. Once the English are gone, you should find it eaiser to contain the rest of them, thanks to your much stronger economy. Hope this helps, and welcome to TWC.
    I love you all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Spanky View Post
    I see your point, but the way I understand it, the only thing stopping them from attacking you is your friendship to the Barons. Either stay friends with them or face em all I'm afraid.

    Its worth pointing out however, that defensive wars tend to be cheaper than offensive ones, so depending on your skill and your finances, you could probably manage.

    However, I wouldn't recommend this. Just keep pounding the English, and if you have enough money then you can simply bribe a settlement, linking the two parts of your empire. Once the English are gone, you should find it eaiser to contain the rest of them, thanks to your much stronger economy. Hope this helps, and welcome to TWC.
    Thanks for the help, Captain Spanky

    I totally know what I should do now

    XKillerX

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    Anytime.
    I love you all!

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    If England is your target, then I would just send armies marching through the Baron’s Alliance. This may harm your rep with them, but not break your alliance and cause war on all fronts.

    However, if you want to wipe out the Baron’s, this will end your alliance with Wales/Ireland and it may be hard to stop war on all fronts. Though it doesn’t mean you go to war with Wales/Ireland, just end Alliances. Often, these alliances can be reestablished after you wipe out the baron.s

    Good Luck

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    Default Re: Problems With Scotland Campiagn.

    If you've got the money you could buy territories off the Baron's Alliance and therefore weaken them in a peaceful manner through diplomacy. Other than that, you should build up large armies and then go in for a 3 way betrayal and go all out against the three factions.

    A more strategic option though would be to try and disband the Welsh/Irish armies by assassinating their Generals and building up high Scottish culture in the nearby regions. Once the armies have rebelled you are then free to pillage the BA in peace without your neighbours getting in the way.
    Last edited by Insurgent; February 29, 2008 at 03:08 PM.

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    Use the poor coding to your advantage and wipe out the English.

    If you kill England and the Baron's Alliance exists, it BECOMES England and instantly switches outfits. More importantly, its political situation becomes that of the English. I.E. they will be at war with you, and the other factions and you can then take out any settlements they had that you wanted.

    It seems a lot of work I know, but think of it as adding an extra challenge.

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    Build a navy. Better, build two navies, one on each coast. And build DOMINANT navies: half a dozen each cogs and holks on each coast. Somebody's going to have the power to move troops the length of the island in three turns, to restrict the enemy to moving along roads blocked by forts and cluttered with troops, to blockade half a dozen ports simultaneously to cripple the enemy's economy while keeping your trade routes open.
    It can be you, or the other guy. And you can do it all for about the cost of four midlevel castle improvements.
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    good god man if they will attack you even after quickly wiping out the barons then their not your friends in the first place prepare to defend yourself from those greedy savages
    Last edited by Heavy_; May 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM.

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