Wrestling Disscusion Thread

[ccllnply]

This is probably a bad idea

Well is thread is for disscusing WWE and TNA. Althought we're suppoes to pretend is real, I just saw something really funny



Now that we got that out of the way so people won't crowd this thread just to say wrestling is fake, anyone know when Bobby Lashley and John Cena are coming back?

[the_mango55]

Oh I thought we were talking about real wrestling

Anyway, check out this ownage:

[Fijj]

Oh I thought we were talking about real wrestling

Anyway, check out this ownage:

Holy man!!

Was that you? That was probably greatest move I've ever seen

[Flemish Celt]

So HBK will be announcing his retirement (again?) on Summerslam? What you think? Will he or won't he?

The man has been around for years and perhaps his body has reached it's breaking point. I'm full aware that the eye thing is part of the story with Y2J, however one must admit years of wrestling does weigh on one's body.

Anyway I sincerely hope not, the man is one of the last few icons (the other being Undertaker) that remember me off "the good old days" of WWF.

[Hunter Makoy]

Bobby Lashley is not comming back. He was forced to quit, the details of which i am not aware of right now.

John Cena made a suprise appearance at the RR tonight and entered 30th and won the rumble. so John Cena is going to WM! however i would guess that he will have limited in-ring competition up until that point because previously all reports indicated he would not return until Summer Slam time or a bit before.

ROYAL RUMBLE RESULTS

Ric Flair def. MVP via submission (figure 4 leg-lock)

Edge def. Rey Rey via pinfall (spear, or as i like to call his "the running hug of doom!")

JBL def. Y2J via DQ (Jericho laid layfield out with a chair)

Randy Orton def. Jeff Hardy via pinfal (RKO, or as i like to call it "dont try this on Y2J while he's doing the Walls of Jericho")

+rep to the first person who gets that ^^^^^^^^^^

John Cena wins Royal Rumble match after entering 30th

i might be missing something from the undercard, i cant remember.

[boofhead]

Ahhh. The power of Google:

http://www.mmanews.com/other/Bobby-L...MA-Career.html

WTF? Think it's for real?

[Hunter Makoy]

yeah its true he quit. as far as the pursuing MMA, i wouldn't say thats for sure at all. there have been rumors about that, but news just broke about him quitting like maybe 2 days ago. its all still very fresh, and as far as i know WWE hasn't even posted anything on their website. the only news had come from Lashley's official website. as the link says, the only thing he said was that he didn't want to quit, but soemthing (i'm guessing outside the company) pretty much forced him too. even tho he may be training for MMA, i hardly think that would be his next step. altho, we all remember Kurt Angle "quiting to be with his family" and then joining TNA about a month later. so i'm holding out that lashley isn't pulling that same jackass move.

but in anycase it looks like it will be hardy in the elimination chamber at NWO. they speculated that because of the pics in the latest WWE mag., and since he lost to randy tonight, it looks like that could be the case.

HOWEVER, the chamber match is gonna be to determin the contender for the belt that the RR winner wont go after, so considering cena won the rumble, that emans either hardy or cena is gonna be switching brands for that scenario above to play out.

[ccllnply]

John Cena made a suprise appearance at the RR tonight and entered 30th and won the rumble. so John Cena is going to WM!

I knew it!

I only read the first result, want to see it for myself. I can't believe Ric Flair won! I'd say in reality he wants to retire and will probably do it at Wrestlemania

[Hunter Makoy]

yeah he'll be going out at WM. i was sure he wouldn't be doing the job to MVP. MVP is really comming into his own, but he's not up to the level to be ending the career of Flair. the rumor right now is that flair is gonna go out to HBK at WM. which is both good and bad. good cuz obviously hbk and wrestle a very good match with flair, and is surely capable of taking that kind of honor. but also bad because i would assume that they would give the honor to a younger guy. hbk really doesn't need that kind of rub. but then there's also the possibility of flair winning and WM and then choosing to retire the next night on RAW.

and cena vs. orton is kinda the rock/austin or rock/triple h of the newest generation, so i think that will be definately a great thing to see. going back and seeing a match between them a few years ago (if they had one) would be like watching rock/hhh in the ladder match at summerslam 98. seeing to future stars wrestle each other when they were just midcarders.

[ccllnply]

Ok I looked though the rest of the results(Raw is not on Sky Sports tonight) and.....

Ric Flair def. MVP via submission (figure 4 leg-lock)

I'm glad that happened.

Edge def. Rey Rey via pinfall (spear, or as i like to call his "the running hug of doom!")

Thats stupid. Whats this thing that Smackdown! have lately were the worst actor or the bad guy(both for Edge) always wins.

JBL def. Y2J via DQ (Jericho laid layfield out with a chair)

I wish I had seen that!

Randy Orton def. Jeff Hardy via pinfal (RKO, or as i like to call it "dont try this on Y2J while he's doing the Walls of Jericho")

Now thats just retarded. Why would the WWE do that to Jeff Hardy? His been in the WWE for 15 years and hasn't won the WWE championship yet but he still has to wait. Thats not the big problem though. The problem is Randy Orton is a stupid retard. I mean how much of a dip****** can you be. He exaggerates everything way to much. The best acting I've ever seen him do was when he was suppoes to be knocked out cold after Jeff Hardy threw him of the stage. Another thing is where before he those the RKO (which must stand for Retarded Knock Out) he starts doing press-ups on his fists. He looks like a jackass. And where must superstars have good finishers like Tombstone Piledriver and Sweet Chin Music, Randy Orton has RKO and kick in the head? My main point is that Randy Orton is a retard and the WWE writers should make him lose his title soon or someone in the crowd should hit him with a brick while he makes his stupid entrance

(sorry for all the bad words mods)

[Hunter Makoy]

my problem with orton is not that his character is a jackass, its that HE is a jackass. he's had complaints against him backstage (primarily by the divas) one of the, Amy Weber i think, quit because of orton. he's allegided to have left a brown snake (if u know wat i mean) in one of the diva's bags. he's prolly on the gas and its only gonna be matter of time before he gets suspended for that. he's been suspended twice already i think. if he fails three times for performance enhancing drugs, he's fired. he has consistantly been a bad figurehead for the company, and is not the person i would want towing the company line for WWE. the main reason he's there is because of bob sr. and bob jr. if he hadn't been a third generation, he would have had all these chances.

as for jeff hardy being in WWE 15 years, i dont think thats true. now his first appearance was 15 years ago, but he wasn't fulltime until 99 i beileve. also he was gone for 2 or so years after he got into some drug problems and quit ,and worked for TNA. now considering his latest run: he has done a tremendous job. he has a TON of heat from the crowd, and everyone loves him. his promos r improving, and he's becoming a very creadible wrestler. however in general i would put him in the catagory of jericho and people like that, very good workers, but more fitted to being an upper midcarder then a champion, atleast not yet.

UPDATE

the elimination chamber at no way out will be a match to determin the contender for the winner of the cena/orton match (which will also be at NWO) to headline wrestlemania.

contenders

Y2J
JBL
HHH
HBK
JEFF HARDY
Umaga

[ccllnply]

Elimination Chamber on both shows? Jesus, the writers were lazy there.

I was looking at Raw on Thrusday (replay) and what I don't get is why some people hate John Cena. I mean what has he done wrong?

[Hunter Makoy]

mostly the men hate him because, i ono, they dont like his gimmick or something. some people think he's a bad wrestler, but he's more solid then the Rock. (pun not intended)

during some matches their will be a dueling chant with all the men cheering for his opponent and the women cheering for Cena. its really quite cool to hear.

on 2 chambers in one night, yeah, i was very surprised when i saw that, i thought it was just gonna be for one show. thats gonna be wild.

[Aristocrat]

All the smarks (smart marks) hate John Cena (the character) because he is booked like Hogan was. No matter what he will eventually hulk up, make a comeback, and win, this was the story for his entire title reign and it hasn't been near long enough for people to even remotely want to see him doing it again.

All the mothers, daughters, and little kids love John Cena because the WWE books him like they did Hulk Hogan, it's an unbridgable gap.

On Cena being more solid in the ring than the Rock....bahahahahahahahaha.

No, he isn't, the Rock had a moveset that exceeded the amount of fingers on one hand, Cena doesn't, or if he does, he doesn't use them. Cena is solid in the ring, but the Rock, while not being a great wrestler, had more up his sleeve than Cena, and then there is the other half of the business, charisma, where the Rock blows Cena away, which is sad because Cena currently blows everyone else away in that regard.

[Hunter Makoy]

let me start off by point out that i'm bout the smartest fan ur gonna find on these forums. not to sound rude, i'm just getting that out there.

and when im reffering to solid wrestling, i'm talking about solid in the ring. Cena is fine on charisma, not everyone can come up with 1,000 useless catch phrases like the rock, and most people, particularly insiders, dont care, the same reason the smarks hate cena is the same reason the smarks didn't like rocky. rock was a very soft worker, cena, while not as stiff a worker as bob holly or regal, is certainly not as soft as the rock. ive seen the rock do that over head suplex so poorly they had to start calling it a 'throw', one time he didn't even touch the guy! and have u seen him do a sharpshooter? wat a discrace! he says he does it in honor of owen hart, i have a feeling owen is rolling over in his grave every time he does it.

and its not jsut because they think cena's the new hogan that they hate him, they all feel that his character is lame compared to the way it was when he was still heel. they dont like the baby face cena.

EDIT: BTW that loser Brock Lesnar lost his UFC debute in 1:30 in round 1. pretty weak, but serves the guy right. man i shoulda had a bet going on that cuz i knew that sucker was gonna fail.

on cena being the new hogan, i really think he's more the new rock. they both say some things that dont make any since half the time (anyone remember rock saying "(random person) on an icecream sammich"?) they both frequently use the 'face in paral' act with the false-comebacks during matches. their signiture moves consit of for one, an elbow drop, and the other a fist drop. WTF? the rock had the rock bottom as a finisher, which was basically a modified russian leg sweep (its actually technical name is the Soviet Suplex), and Cena uses a glorified firemans carry. its almost as bad as Edge's running hug of doom.

[ccllnply]

Rey Mystrio got hammered(pretty obivous though, I mean he wasn't going to face the Undertaker). Just looking at the No Way Out repeat and LOL! The Big Show is back. And LOL! Flody Mayweather buckelled him with 4 punches

[Hunter Makoy]

well rey tore his bicep last week in chile, so that had something to do with it. i'm kinda suprised that their doing the same 'taker run as they did last year, title vs. streak, except with edge in there instead of batista. and i'm hoping their not gonna be giving edge the win, he doesn't need the rub, nor does he deserve it.

[ccllnply]

Ah Edge is class! Everyone hates him now cause he has act as Vicky Guerrero's husband and she a fool.

Is the Big Show Vs. Mayweather match going to be real? Edge even went out of character to talk about it. Everyone is acting like its going to be real

[Hunter Makoy]

just trying to revive this thread.

yeah the Big show match was as real as it gets in pro wrestling.

[ccllnply]

So basically it was real hits but was scripted, yeah?