Vassals benefits and problems

**Ambiorix_thijs** · January 18, 2008, 09:55 PM

A goodday to you all. i got a question about vassals.

1/what benefits does it give?

2/ i loose most of my money when i have a vassal, strange?

3/ you should be able to do more with them than your allies

4/ isnt there a way tol control something of them like units or something ?

thank you

**Pyrebound** · January 19, 2008, 04:03 AM

Their provinces count as yours, so it brings you closer to victory. You also get
like half of their income, and i think you also get all the money that gets over 10,000 in their treasury. Afaik.

**N3rull** · January 20, 2008, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Pyrebound

Their provinces count as yours, so it brings you closer to victory. You also get
like half of their income, and i think you also get all the money that gets over 10,000 in their treasury. Afaik.

What?! Never noticed. Maybe that's the way SS works.
I once played England and vassaled France (because an attack would result in excommunication and I had other matters to attend to, namely Spain and Crusade) who had only Toulouse and Marseille, they were skyrocketing in funds and I was like

because my finances would really use the wealthy sea provinces.

**pwijnands** · January 19, 2008, 05:16 AM

I think you also have military access to your vassals land. But you can't do anything special with them like telling them who to attack etc.

**eggthief** · January 19, 2008, 06:49 AM

u are supposed to protect them I think. Does anyone knows if a having a vassal will complete the objective of destroying or outlawing (or outlasting cant really remember)a faction.

**Pyrebound** · January 19, 2008, 07:57 AM

I do not know but i quess that it is 'defeated' by you until they rise against you.

**redhawk13** · January 19, 2008, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by eggthief

u are supposed to protect them I think. Does anyone knows if a having a vassal will complete the objective of destroying or outlawing (or outlasting cant really remember)a faction.

Having a faction as a vassal does not count as destroying that faction. I am currently playing a short campaign as England where the objectives are eliminating France and Scotland, and at one point I had destroyed France and made Scotland a vassal. However, I didn't achieve victory until I attacked and destroyed Scotland.

**Leander** · January 21, 2008, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by redhawk13

Having a faction as a vassal does not count as destroying that faction. I am currently playing a short campaign as England where the objectives are eliminating France and Scotland, and at one point I had destroyed France and made Scotland a vassal. However, I didn't achieve victory until I attacked and destroyed Scotland.

In a recent game, something similar happened. I still had William the Conqueror taking the entirety of the isles, mainly relying on mercenaries. The Scots were down to one settlement, Dublin with like four units and their new faction leader. William and his army was a couple turns away, and I had a diplomat nearby. I proposed them to be a vassal, and they though that Very Generous. So on my way there, I had a vassal that paid me nearly thirty-thousand florins per turn before I conquered them, and then all of Ireland with William the Conqueror. ^_^ Sorry for hijacking. lol