stakes, some questions

**Ambiorix_thijs** · January 17, 2008, 09:48 PM

What are the civs that can makes stakes? and are there gunpowder units that can make that?

I read that you can put stakes before a gate, but there are places where you cant put the stakes like a road for instance.
can you put stakes before the gates?

stakes are very good, like the turkish janis archers, strong unit and great range. I think this is the best archer for the reason that they can make stakes to kill cavs and they can kill infantry in melee too.

**Sher Khan** · January 17, 2008, 10:20 PM

England, Hungary, and the Turks in Vanilla can lay stakes.

England and the Turks utilize their longbows and Janissaries, so they make for excellent archer units. Hungary, however, uses a less powerful archer unit that's more useful for their stakes than their actual shooting ability.

**Monsieur Alphonse** · January 17, 2008, 11:58 PM

Not Hungary but Poland. All English longbows (longbows, Yeomen, Retinue), Polish Lithuanian archers and Turkish Janissary archers. + free company longbows (mercenaries).

You can't place them on a road except in cities or castles.

Gunpowder units can't place stakes.

**pwijnands** · January 18, 2008, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Monsieur Alphonse

You can't place them on a road except in cities or castles.

You can't place them at the end of a bridge either, tried it once and they only appeared left and right of the road.

**Ambiorix_thijs** · January 18, 2008, 10:13 AM

jup i couldnt do tha either.

**Insurgent** · January 18, 2008, 10:29 AM

The Welsh rebel archers can use them too. You should be careful when manouvering your cavalry when close to them tho- they can harm your own cavalry.

**eggthief** · January 18, 2008, 12:36 AM

In SS more units of other factions have it as well, this is especcially useful as the Templars when facing the Mongols.

**Kratos** · January 18, 2008, 12:46 AM

As far as I know there are no gunpowder units that can deploy stakes.

**eggthief** · January 18, 2008, 11:14 AM

Yeah but only if you march fast with cavalry trough the side where the stakes point at, which isnt hard to avoid if u got a small bit of skill.

**Monsieur Alphonse** · January 18, 2008, 11:40 AM

Even marching with cavalry at high speed in the direction the stakes are facing can be very dangerous. I lost two generals doing that.

**JCeasar_911** · January 18, 2008, 04:28 PM

ive played only a few games in which stakes were used and they didnt seem to do anything at all. maybe they did and i just didnt notice. anyhow all this talk of stakes is making me hungry