Another Unending end turn bug

[Danacus Maximus]

Well, I was playing as the Imamate and everything was running very smoothly until around year 1200. When I ended my turn and the banner transition began, the game locked up at the Abbasid. I wasn't doing as well as I had liked, so I went ahead and started another game as the Imamate without bother to load and try again.

When I reached year 1196, the game locked up once again when the banner transition reached the Abbasid. I couldn't alt tab out of the game, so I managed to get to the task manager and noticed that Medieval Total War 2 was not responded. I closed the game and reopened, loading to my last save. I hit end turn and once again: stuck at Abbasid. I try a third time and on this occassion, it locks up on the Armenians. The music continues during the lock up, but I can't move the screen around and all of the animations halt.

I am patched to 1.2 and, other than that, I have no modifications to Broken Crescent. Any idea what's going wrong?

[misfitsfiend138]

that happened to me when i was koj, when it hit the ERE banner it froze for a bit but i left it alone for a bit and later it unfroze

[Douchebag]

it has to do something with hordes i think...mirage said you gotta 10-15 minutes.

[kabeast]

Hordes? Like the Kypchak horde thing?

[misfitsfiend138]

yea, the turks turned into a horde earlier before i got that freeze so it should be based on the horde thing

[Miraj]

Yeah, if it freezes then its a horde issue. I will be removing 90% of hording factions for 1.1 - its a loss of a nice feature but too bad its broken to begin with.

[misfitsfiend138]

not really, it works, its just that u might have to wait a while when u end ur turn (its only once)

o yea i didnt wait 10-15 min, it was like 5

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

In another mod though, the hording took very little time iirc, perhaps just another look at the script? I'm not expert though I don't know what to fix obviously...just holding out on a hope.

[Miraj]

Which mod? Was it for M2TW? Hording obviously worked nicely for BI mods...

I'll check how scripting ties with it, but hording is to do with setting in the descr_sm_factions.txt.

[Miraj]

OK. I tested this. It seems to be simply something you have to wait through. Be patients. You just put to flight an entire peoples, so consider this a moment of silence.

Anyways, its not even 10 min. Its more like 5 min.

[kabeast]

I never realized that you had put hordes back into Total War. What factions can horde?

[Miraj]

Currently,

Kyps
Armenians
Seljuks
Turks
Ayyubids
KoJ
Khwarezm
Mongols

[GrandViZ]

We should take into consideration, that the CTD bug, that appears after destroying one of these factions, might be related to the hordes property.

[Aposteles]

I am correctly patched (all patches for the game). First time as Armenia I captured all turkish cities, and when I took their last city the game freezes. It seems to be the moment my general is suppose to go into their city. It just hangs.. so I killed the application. Restarted a new campaign yesterday evening with Armenia and when Turks had one city left, I did not take it, but then ERE took it and then the game got stuck on ERE's turn. It seems to hang when the faction gets annihilated. (they still have armies, but their last city is falling). Any comments on this?

[Manco]

Turks are hording, and CA ****ed hording up in M2TW causing a slowdown. Wait 5 min and it'll be okay.

[Artannis Wolfrunner]

Had this happen to me. I thought my campaign was done when it kept freezing on ERE's turn, but I came here and saw this thread.

I reloaded my game, turned off FOW and saw my fogged view was extremely outdated, Georgia and the ERE had taken out the Turks from both sides and they were down to 1 under siege city. Waited about 2 minutes after the lock up and it resumed the turn. I'm guessing hording wasn't really intended to be in M2TW, but was just a left over piece of code from the RTW days?

[Miraj]

Well actually it was intended to be in M2TW. Because Mongols in M2TW vanilla could horde, along with timurids. CA just decided to let a 7/11 employee to write the coding that causes the faction to horde, hence why its totally retarded.

[Tadzreuli]

Well, I was playing as the Imamate and everything was running very smoothly until around year 1200. When I ended my turn and the banner transition began, the game locked up at the Abbasid. I wasn't doing as well as I had liked, so I went ahead and started another game as the Imamate without bother to load and try again.

When I reached year 1196, the game locked up once again when the banner transition reached the Abbasid. I couldn't alt tab out of the game, so I managed to get to the task manager and noticed that Medieval Total War 2 was not responded. I closed the game and reopened, loading to my last save. I hit end turn and once again: stuck at Abbasid. I try a third time and on this occassion, it locks up on the Armenians. The music continues during the lock up, but I can't move the screen around and all of the animations halt.

I am patched to 1.2 and, other than that, I have no modifications to Broken Crescent. Any idea what's going wrong?

I have same problem, AI freeze turn with Armnia (in year 1218) ....

[Smarmy]

I don't know if it's been stated, skimmed through, but this is not a bug/crash/or a freeze. Do not fret.
I encounter the same thing, usually it happens when the turks are knocked out. The game WILL continue, you just need to wait. It's a really bad hick-up but the game is stable. It's just so bogged down and busy that it wont respond to anything until it gets over that bump of loading the horde.

[Miraj]

Yep. Just wait ~5min it will go away. After patch 1.1, very few factions will have hording so this won't happen as much.