Historical Battles

[phoenix[illusion]]

There were no Istanbul in that time ! It was still under Roman/Byzantine rule

Yes for sure. Fall of Konstantinopoulis in 1453 is consider to be fall of Byzantium. So, it was not yet under ottoman control, nor islamized.

[SpyrosM91]

There were no Istanbul in that time ! It was still under Roman/Byzantine rule

despite this small detail, the city was officialy named "Istanbul" in the 1930s.....before that, the name remained "Constantinople".

[saneel]

Yea, you'r right. Was Iconium in that time their capital?

[SpyrosM91]

Yea, you'r right. Was Iconium in that time their capital?

you're a bit confused..

Iconium was the capital of the Seljucs not of the Ottomans...



The capitals of the Ottomans were:

Sogut: 1302 - 1326
Bursa (Prussa):1326 -1365
Edirne (Adrianople): 1365 - 1453 (that's the one you're looking for)
Constantinople: 1453-1922

[saneel]

cool story bro -.-
+ rep

[DobroVece]

Anyhow, the film was made after a theater play which concentrated on this whole idea of dying honorable to earn a passage into heaven. Add to that a desire of filmmakers to enlarge on that idea while being under budget and you have a film that is declared as the worst in Serbian cinematography. A harsh critic, but mostly fair...

[DaniloSrb]

What about the events before the battle.
When was the war declared? When did the Turks first invade Serbia, etc. Who was in control of Serbia and who were its allies?

[phoenix[illusion]]

What about the events before the battle.
When was the war declared? When did the Turks first invade Serbia, etc. Who was in control of Serbia and who were its allies?

i've sent you an e-mail

[Under_Siege]

Velbuzhd (1331)
Maritza (1371)
Kosovo (1389)
Nicopolis (1394)
Ankara (1402)
Varna (1444)
siege of Constantinople (1453)
siege of Belgrade (1456)
Vaslui (1475)
siege of Rhodes (1522)
Mohacz (1526)
siege of Vienna (1529)

My personal opinion is that there are too many sieges. 1-2 will be enough.

And... I don't know is here the right place to ask, but all that battles including Ottoman forces remind me something - I don't know how exactly to ask my question to understand me, but I'll try. So, if I play with Bulgaria, and make my little war with Byzantium, Serbia and etc etc... Will we be melt away by the forces of islam. Will Turks be made strong enough to crush me if I don't make alliances, if I fight alone against them? I will wait answers.

Regards!

[2Shy]

And... I don't know is here the right place to ask, but all that battles including Ottoman forces remind me something - I don't know how exactly to ask my question to understand me, but I'll try. So, if I play with Bulgaria, and make my little war with Byzantium, Serbia and etc etc... Will we be melt away by the forces of islam. Will Turks be made strong enough to crush me if I don't make alliances, if I fight alone against them? I will wait answers.

Regards!

Well this is one of the primary objectives of the mode but its all about game balancing. We all agreed that it isnt good idea to spam stack of ottomans(like TATW did with Mordor) but better to give them bonuses (like money).

[Under_Siege]

Well this is one of the primary objectives of the mode but its all about game balancing. We all agreed that it isnt good idea to spam stack of ottomans(like TATW did with Mordor) but better to give them bonuses (like money).

I think that it will be very interesting if they have some starting armies(not too big) and if they can train more units at a time than normal factions. Of course, only if the player is not with ottoman faction. Actually, if the player is with ottomans, maybe he shall have all those bonuses like training bigger army, BUT the balkans will make alliance against turks... You are the boss, you decide what to do

[2Shy]

I think that it will be very interesting if they have some starting armies(not too big) and if they can train more units at a time than normal factions. Of course, only if the player is not with ottoman faction. Actually, if the player is with ottomans, maybe he shall have all those bonuses like training bigger army, BUT the balkans will make alliance against turks... You are the boss, you decide what to do

Dont forget that this mode is about realism.The ottomans didnt have big army( at least at the mode timeframe) - they used the armies of their christian vassals.

[Under_Siege]

Dont forget that this mode is about realism.The ottomans didnt have big army( at least at the mode timeframe) - they used the armies of their christian vassals.

Yes, you are right. But they were specialist of making big armies quickly... Very agressive faction.

PP: Are you bulgarian?

[The Glorious Moldovan]

umm is the battle of vaslui still going on?
id simply die to play that,i tryed reproducing it with Cosacks but i failed..

[phoenix[illusion]]

umm is the battle of vaslui still going on?
id simply die to play that,i tryed reproducing it with Cosacks but i failed..

well, yes. historical battles are no problem, they are easy to be made. anyways, post some wishes if you have it

[Thinkerman]

I have been wondering: If we have battle of Chernomen, what kind of units should Vulkashin have, Bulgarian or Serbian? He was a serbian noble, but he ruled over lands mostly populated with bulgarians. Maybe mixed?

[matija191]

well, yes. historical battles are no problem, they are easy to be made. anyways, post some wishes if you have it

Varna 1444.
Nicopole 1396.
Mohacs 1526.

....are simply must have!

[SpyrosM91]

these are already in...

[2Shy]

Kosovo would be fun- half of the otoman army was from thier vassals and half of the vassals army was bulgarian !

[phoenix[illusion]]

I have been wondering: If we have battle of Chernomen, what kind of units should Vulkashin have, Bulgarian or Serbian? He was a serbian noble, but he ruled over lands mostly populated with bulgarians. Maybe mixed?

probably. no real evidence what sort of units were included
thing is that mrnjavcevici were royal family, serving uros V. so, probably vlastela will be serbian, but infantry bulgarian or something like that

Kosovo would be fun- half of the otoman army was from thier vassals and half of the vassals army was bulgarian !

we'll see, but those vassal will anyways be portraited as ottomans, cause they were usually jannisary or sipahi units