Valkyrie

On July 20, 1944 Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg entered Wolfsschanze (Wolf's Lair) near Rastenburg in East Prussia. In his suitcase were concealed two small bombs. The rest is history and now it is a movie by Brian Singer.

Singer had some excellent moments with "The usual Suspects" and "Apt Pupil" and some, well, it depends on the taste moments with the X-men series and the rather lame Superman revival.

The story is intriguing and it became more intriguing post-war when it was elevated to a scale by which Wermacht was measured. Many officers went in great length to prove their association with the Valkyrie plot, others as Guderian strives to prove their ignorance (there are two pages in Guderian's autobiography where he claims he had a stroll in the park during the plot;litterally).

I really wonder how deep in the rabbithole Singer will descend. A worrying sign is that the Prince of Scientology is playing Stauffenberg (eye patch and all).

Mission Impossible?

tom cruise?

way to tarnish what could have been great, the plot line will now be:

Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg is a bomp plotter, he's a pretty good bomb plotter too until he has a crisis of confidence and can't plot anymore. that is until he meets a beautiful woman who helps him get his confidence back and he plots like he never plotted before.

Tom Cruise is unfairly treated - because it's fashionable to do so and for no other reason. He appears in satisfying movies. The Last Samurai, Minority Report, War of the Worlds - none of this stuff is what you'd call high art but it does the job it sets out to do with efficiency. I can't think of a Tom Cruise movie I've seen that I didn't enjoy on some level. And he's a Scientologist, you say? So what? I couldn't care less about the man's personal life.

Tom Cruise may be a raving lunatic and have downright scary worldviews in private life, but as an actor he usually delivers.

I gotta say though, I didn't like the trailer much when I first saw it. It feels too much like Hollywood wanting to inject their usual overblown drama into this assassination attempt by a bunch of disgruntled military aristocrats.

I have heard bad things. With the amount of money thrown into it will be entertaining enough. Cruise is a great actor. These people are told what to do and they do it. It is unfair to critique their work according to their lives.

Discuss!

Looks cool.
Hope it won't be too overdramatic.

Researched this film a few weeks ago. Looks good. Funny thing is, the German govt didnt want Cruise involved due to him being a scientologist.

Originally Posted by Dead*Man*Wilson

Researched this film a few weeks ago. Looks good. Funny thing is, the German govt didnt want Cruise involved due to him being a scientologist.

Rofl

Looks cool indeed.

I remember this from an argue that this shouldnt be shown, Because Tom Cruise was playing a family member that the family dont want him to... ( i messed up the sentence lolz)

Originally Posted by jakobh94

I remember this from an argue that this shouldnt be shown, Because Tom Cruise was playing a family member that the family dont want him to... ( i messed up the sentence lolz)

IIRC, the family retracted any misgivings about it.
The German government, IMO, acted unreasonably in condemning Cruise just because he's a Scientologist. His religion has nothing to do with his acting ability.

And I have never, not once, been disappointed Tom Cruise's performances in films. The only film he was in that I didn't like a lot was War of the Worlds, and he wasn't the reason I disliked it. It was the stupid screaming girl and arrogant son that messed that one up. Everything else was great.

So, I am looking forward to Valkyrie. Looks awesome.

It looks good, and I believe they once tested the potential operation valkyrie once.

I saw Valkyrie yesterday. I'm not at liberty to say how historically accurate the film is because I don't know much about the July 1944 plot other than the basics. Overall though I thought it was very well done and enjoyable film. I thought that Tom Cruise did a pretty good job as Colonel von Stauffenberg as well.

Your thoughts? (And of course anal critiques on historical inaccuracies)

I think Tom Cruise is a great actor, but if you're getting paid so much money for a role can't you at least TRY to put on a German accent?

Originally Posted by Il Duce

I think Tom Cruise is a great actor, but if you're getting paid so much money for a role can't you at least TRY to put on a German accent?

Either proper german or proper english, no ing idiotic accents please.

Originally Posted by Mathias

Either proper german or proper english, no ing idiotic accents please.

They do not use German accents in the film.

However, I do think that the carefully toned RP accents of British legends Branagh, Wilkinson, Stamp and Nighy add a great deal to their characterizations.

The film is actually great from a historical perspective, if not brilliant cinema-wise. Singer knows how to make a suspenseful film and it shows.

However, why must American directors use low camera angles and "oooh, he's evil" music cues every time Hitler shows up on camera? It's an awfully artificial device.

Although I don't think they should have used German accents, as I've already seen Kenneth Branagh play a Nazi bigwig with a Brit accent in HBO's Conspiracy, I did have a good laugh when I heard Tom Cruise say 'DO YOU WANT TO SAVE THE FATHERLAND!?!?' in his wel...Tom Cruise voice.

Originally Posted by Il Duce

can't you at least TRY to put on a German accent?

Either speak German or correct English. Not this fake cheese German accent that doesn't sound anything like a real German.

Originally Posted by Il Duce

I think Tom Cruise is a great actor, but if you're getting paid so much money for a role can't you at least TRY to put on a German accent?

Germans accents are for speaking German.
Or for Germans speaking English.

It'd just sound corny if Cruise tried it. :/

I would rather them not use corny fake German accents.

My aunt went to see the movie and told me she enjoyed it very much. She is an elementary school teacher and a history buff. However she also didn't know much about the July plot and told me after seeing the movie she was going to go get some books on it.

So I guess it impressed her.