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    good work Kavhan! Many thanks!

    Spyros is already on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavhan Isbul View Post
    For Il Duce - found this scanned map of Bulgarian medieval fortresses. Huge images, lots of places, but it should hopefully work for the mod. Just find the ones that will be on the campaign map and ignore the rest. The map is a general map for the entire medieval period, which means that it includes fortresses that were not under Bulgarian control at the time of the mod, but that info can be useful when mapping the neighboring factions.

    Sorry - no topographic details, except rivers. But I think there are roads as well.
    If it's the one I've scanned, as I think it is (judging by the size), note that it also includes not only medieval, but also ancient locations like Abritus (though the majority are medieval or at least ones that also existed in the Middle Ages, I think). Otherwise, the map is from the book "Bulgarian military history during the Middle Ages /X-XV c./" by D. Angelov and B. Cholpanov (sorry, no info on armaments etc, only very detailed infos on fortresses/fortification systems and military campaigns, at least in my version).
    Btw, you can also see it online here (including partial scans by a couple of guys from the BG-Science forum (and all of the strongholds' plans are their scans)), though it's better to download it from Kavhan Isbul's post, since Photobucket certainly can't handle images with such a high resolution.

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    yup that's the same map...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikeBG View Post
    If it's the one I've scanned, as I think it is (judging by the size), note that it also includes not only medieval, but also ancient locations like Abritus (though the majority are medieval or at least ones that also existed in the Middle Ages, I think). Otherwise, the map is from the book "Bulgarian military history during the Middle Ages /X-XV c./" by D. Angelov and B. Cholpanov (sorry, no info on armaments etc, only very detailed infos on fortresses/fortification systems and military campaigns, at least in my version).
    Btw, you can also see it online here (including partial scans by a couple of guys from the BG-Science forum (and all of the strongholds' plans are their scans)), though it's better to download it from Kavhan Isbul's post, since Photobucket certainly can't handle images with such a high resolution.
    Yes, that is exactly where I got it from - BgNauka. For that, I will give you rep immediately and encouragae everyone else to do so. Thank you!

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    I found an interesting article about armors in the last days of the Bulgarian Second Tsardom. It's bases on the new archeological diggings in the Tsar's Palace in Tsarevets, Turnovo.

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    The article is in Bulgarian, but has resume in English. Sorry for bad formatting, but I don't have time to edit it.

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    Medieval Armor from the Royal palace
    in Tarnovgrad
    (summary)

    Deyan Rabovyanov,
    Stanimir Dimitrov

    This article discusses 19 iron plates found in
    rooms Nos. 1 and 4 in building II of the Royal
    Palace on Tsarevets hill in the Bulgarian Medieval
    capital of Tarnovgrad (Figs. 1, 2). The building,
    that served as a royal house, was burnt together
    with the rest of the palace during the capture of
    Tarnovgrad by the Ottoman Turks in 1393. This
    provided the terminus ante quem for the find. Due
    to their fragmentary nature and poor preservation,
    the plates were wrongly identified as fragments of
    iron shields by their excavator.
    After conservation, it was possible to reconstruct
    ten well preserved plates and nine small fragments
    (Figs. 3-5). The big plates are rectangular, slightly
    concave, measuring 15.5-19x13.5-14.5 centimeters,
    and are 0.3-0.4 centimeters thick (their
    original thickness was cca. 0.2 centimeters. The
    average weight of the big plates is around 350 g.
    Traces of leather lining were found on the back
    of the plates, while their surface was covered with
    fabric attached by decorative rivets with six-petal
    rosette-like heads. Two other plates (№№ 14, 15)
    have big rivets with semi-circular heads used for
    attachment to the leather. A special feature of the
    plates is that they are arranged and fixed to each
    other in rows. Their long sides are joined by an
    iron band - 1.5 centimeters wide that was hammered
    on their edges.
    The find from Tsarevets was obviously part of a
    coat of plates. The form of the armor, the peculiarities
    of its construction and the shape of the decorative

    rivet heads, all suggest a Western European
    origin. The lack of chains attached to the breast
    plates indicates a possible date before AD 1340.
    Fixed plates in rows were not known in armor before
    the 14th century AD. On the other hand, the
    lack of vertical connection between the rows of
    plates prevents the appearance of monolithic armor,
    which is introduced circa AD 1340. Because
    of these characteristic features, the armor from
    Tarnovgrad is dated to the period 1320-1340 AD.
    Similarly to the armor from Chalcis and Azov, it
    can be used and kept for an extensive period.
    Probably the front side of the armor was made of
    two rows of three plates each, and the rows overlapped
    slightly. This is testified by the absence of
    a third row of rivets on the plates. The side and the
    back of the body were covered by four big plates.
    The small plates with round rivets were probably
    placed below the armpits and over the shoulders,
    thus facilitating the attachment of the row of plates
    to the leather lining. A similar coat of plates is depicted
    on one of the frescos in the church St. Abbondio
    in Como (Fig. 12), painted in AD 1330-
    1340.
    This armor, together with other examples of
    defensive weaponry from Bulgaria demonstrates
    Western European influence over the warfare of the
    Second Bulgarian Kingdom. The Bulgarian military
    elite were not very different from their contemporary
    counterparts in Western Europe, who
    were utilizing a coat of plates over chain mail.
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    "...We are Bulgarians and and all suffer from one common disease [e.g., the Ottoman rule]" and "Our task is not to shed the blood of Bulgarians, of those who belong to the same people that we serve" - Gotse Delchev, Collective memory, national identity, and ethnic conflict: Greece, Bulgaria, and the Macedonian question, Victor Roudometof, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2002, ISBN 0275976483, p. 79.

    "The Bulgarians, these are the people, who had everything they wished for. A nation, where the one who buys the nobility with the blood of the enemy receives titles..." - Magnus Felix Ennodius, description of battle at Margus
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    Here are mine sketches for the mod of bulgarian pronoia




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    wonderful! +rep

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    Indeed these sketches are fantastic +rep and keep up the good work!

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    Beauty +rep

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    Amazing work +rep !

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    Ohhhh great work mate. +rep
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    "...We are Bulgarians and and all suffer from one common disease [e.g., the Ottoman rule]" and "Our task is not to shed the blood of Bulgarians, of those who belong to the same people that we serve" - Gotse Delchev, Collective memory, national identity, and ethnic conflict: Greece, Bulgaria, and the Macedonian question, Victor Roudometof, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2002, ISBN 0275976483, p. 79.

    "The Bulgarians, these are the people, who had everything they wished for. A nation, where the one who buys the nobility with the blood of the enemy receives titles..." - Magnus Felix Ennodius, description of battle at Margus
    (Morava) river 505 AD





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    +rep for awesomness

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    Thank you all!
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    Could someone post some screenshots of the units, please? I want to take a look of the units, but almost all of the pictures, posted before, are removed...

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    just check the the "Bulgaria Preview" in the "Previews" sub-forum...
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    Just a study (horrible armor ) It has no direct connection with the mod, just some of you may find it interesting

    A bolyar:

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    Very nice drawing!

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    Bulgarian or maybe any balkan(serbian, roman) emperor sketch:

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    Great stuff ! +rep !!!

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