I knew for it , just didn't want to be rude and say we have that, because we appreciate any kind of help . So please just keep up you doing a great job
I knew for it , just didn't want to be rude and say we have that, because we appreciate any kind of help . So please just keep up you doing a great job
Looks great.
Yes plenty. I'm not TOO obsessed with it I just thought for both historical and cultural accuracy they should be included somewhat.(4x - I think thats enough)
Its great to see some Hunyad flags, and those other exp. banners are very interesting too!
Great stuff. Keep up the good work
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Hungarian units
Cavalry:
1. Royal Banderium - the same unit as exists right now
2. Baronial Banderium - the same model and texture as Gendarmes unit in the original MTW2 game, but riding unbarded horses
3. County Banderium - Can use the Venetian heavy infantry model, without the shield, with a lance as primary weapon, and sword or that warhammer as secondary, alternatively the mounted crossbowmen modfel (the version with the updated armour)
4. Mounted crossbowmen - the same unit that exists right now
5. Hussars - the same unit, only the shield should be changed. I don't know why, but the devs actually reversed the shield when making this unit, it should be flipped, like a mirror image. The side of the shield that extends upwards should actually be on the other side, facing away from the body. This way this extended 'horn' protects the shoulder of the left hand that holds the shield.
6. Hussar archers - hussar with a bow
7. Hungarian horse archers - can use either one of the two Hungarian horse archer models that we already have, though I think Hungarian nobles model is better
8. Armoured hussars
9. Mounted arquebusiers - reiteres with a rifle (arquebus)
10. Reiters
11. Insurrectio hussar (also could be called 'Noble levy')
12. Lancers - late period heavy cavalry
Infantry:
1. Crossbowmen (should use the arquebusier model with a crossbow instead of an arquebus, and perhaps less flashy colours, more darker tones), because the crossbowmen models we have in vanilla game are to early looking
2. Pavise crossbowmen
3. Armati - This is the name actually used in historical records for an infantry type that resembles the 'Pavise infantry' unit. In the actual chronicles written during the reign of Matthias Corvinus, heavily armoured infatrny using large shields and spears were called Armati. However, the Pavise spearman model is unsuitable for the period covered by the mod. Instead, this unit should use the the Venetian heavy infantry or Handgunners as a basic model, with weapons changed to spear and large shield combination.
4. Handgunners
5. Arquebusiers
6. Musketeers
7. Archers (can use French mounted archer model)
8. Bosnian archers (I'd prefer we use the name Balkan archers, becuase it makes no sense to limit this unit to just Bosnia)
8. Levy of the commoners - Voulge milita (or alternatively we can use the Voulge militia model with a different pole arm)
9. Levy Archers - (Peasant archers unit with a different name)
10. Halberdier
11. Pike milita
12. Crossbow militia - halberdier militia or pike militia model with a crossbow, the model used by the current crossbow militia units is too early looking for this mod
13. Arquebus militia - basic pike milita model with an arquebus, without the possibility of upgrade in armour
14. Trannsylvanian infantry - can use the Transylvanian peasants model but I'd like them to have more armour, at least some kind of helmet and a mail shirt, at least once they upgrade the armour
15. Vlachs - Croatian axemen unit with a bow instead of an axe
16. Haiduks - new unit,the Battlefield assasins model with an arquebus and sabre as secondary weapon would fit the role
17. Cernide - new unit
18. Haramije - new unit
Artillery:
All cannon models
Units available as mercenaries (for custom battles and during campaign available for recruitment in the starting provinces, not a definite list but some suggestions ):
1. Landesknechts units
2. Hussars
3. Hussars archers
4. Armoured hussars
5. Pikemen
6. Arquebusiers
7. Schwarze reiters
8. Bohemian arquebusiers
9. Bohemian pikemen
10. Halberdiers
there is possibility in MTW 2 that some units have special flags of their own ( like templars, or hospitallers in vanilla). that means that black army units (clipeati and armati ) will have Black army flag. but I will make special banners later when we start work on units.
The haiduks is anachronistic, as "haiduchism" only started much later (I think it's first recorded in the 17th century) and as a response to Turkish oppressions. Vlachs should probably use either the "cioban" or the "mosneni" unit model which will be available to the Principality of Wallachia. I'm a little confused about the "musketeers" as that word is getting tossed about on a lot of unit lists. From what I know, the musket was not used too much until the 17th century, when it fully replaced the arquebus and caliver. Even in the 16th century, its use was probably after 1530, though I may be mistaken...
Here are some pictures of Hungarians, which were adapted from various historical sources like illuminated manuscripts and frescoes. These drawings depict characters as the were depicted in their original source, so therefore pictures from for examlpe; the 14th century, may be depicting older characters like St. Laszlo. This is because the original sources were historical depictions, and in these cases the incongruency has been noted.
Lajos (Louis) the Great's Period (mid 14th century)
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Late 14th and Early 15th Centuries
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Early 15th century
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15th Century
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King Mátyas and Jagello's Period (1480-1526)
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Drawings and names sourced from http://www.kolumbus.fi/rauno.huikari/
Hope it helps! Unfortunately I have as of yet not been able to find any images of Hungarian soldiers other then the above but I'll keep looking.
Last edited by \Vazul's Ghost/; February 02, 2008 at 04:58 PM.
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Can you check your pictures, there is something wrong!
Check out that link people
http://www.kolumbus.fi/rauno.huikari..._viseletek.htm
Sorry about that i'll try to fix it...I don't know is it me, but I can't see a single picture...
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Fixed!!!!
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