View Poll Results: What do you think government should do?

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  • Make sure everyone is guaranteed a minimal retirement

    23 65.71%
  • Make sure everyone has equal access to medical treatment

    24 68.57%
  • Provide a minimum income

    14 40.00%
  • Provide day care service to parents with children

    14 40.00%
  • Have exclusive control of primary education

    8 22.86%
  • Pay for college

    15 42.86%
  • Control the number of children born

    4 11.43%
  • Enforce ethnic and sex discrimination to undue preceived past wrongs

    4 11.43%
  • Harvest body organs for transplant without consnt

    3 8.57%
  • Limit personal wealth

    7 20.00%
  • No thanks to all of the above, I can take care of myself.

    8 22.86%
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    Big War Bird's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
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    Default Government should handle . . .

    What do you think government should do? In other words how dependent on government to you want to be?

    For those that choose anyhing but the last option, can you please explain your rationale for expecting government to serve your wants.

    By minimal income I did not mean minimum wage. Ny minimal income I am suggesting the government will enur a person is provided necessities even if that person never tries to provide for himself. It could be any form you might imagine it to be.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    Get out of the way.

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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    Enforce the laws, build and maintain the infrastructure, defense on all levels, public education and healthcare for citizens and legal immigrants. Stop.

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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Constitution of the United States
    ...establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,...
    That.

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    Simply put, they should do whatever their people want them to do. Overwhelming majority rules (2/3). If in 2010 the people of France want public health care, they should have it. If in 2020 they want private, they should have it.
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    Wow, I constitute the only vote in two categories...

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    Mind explaining why you think that government should not allow private primary schools? While I agree that it should provide them, it seems a bit... Off to deny private institutions.

    Also, why should a government discriminate against anyone? Even if 200 years ago the other side was discriminated against?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Mind explaining why you think that government should not allow private primary schools? While I agree that it should provide them, it seems a bit... Off to deny private institutions.
    You do notice that these choices seem to be a bit slanted, right?
    Also, why should a government discriminate against anyone? Even if 200 years ago the other side was discriminated against?
    He means affirmative action.
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    Let the government aid the general populace in the protection of their Gid-given rights and leave them otherwise free to pursue happiness. Government should protect, not provide.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    He means affirmative action.
    I am aware of that, it is still discrimination against the majority. Which is just as wrong as discrimination against a minority. Anyone that claims otherwise is a liar who deserves to be punched in the face.

    You do notice that these choices seem to be a bit slanted, right?
    Somewhat, though some of them (even if worded weirdly) express the underlying ideal that they want to discourage.
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    Protect from what? If I may be so bold, many corporations have just as harmful of an effect on a populace as an invader.
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    Voted for the last option. Government should be as small as possible.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    The language of the poll is unfair, for example:

    "Make sure everyone has equal access to medical treatment" implies that the government should force equal medical treatment on everybody, and I don't believe in that, nor would many people.

    "Provide a minimum income" implies government taxes go on paying people's salaries... which is entirely different from setting a minimum wage.

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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    The language of the poll is unfair, for example:

    "Make sure everyone has equal access to medical treatment" implies that the government should force equal medical treatment on everybody, and I don't believe in that, nor would many people.

    "Provide a minimum income" implies government taxes go on paying people's salaries... which is entirely different from setting a minimum wage.
    agreed, bias poll.

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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    If there is any debate about a choice's meaning, automatically assume it means the one you want. Thats what I do.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    I don't I take it the way that the OP meant for it to be taking in which case I believe everyone should have

    Make sure everyone is guaranteed a minimal retirement
    Make sure everyone has equal access to medical treatment
    Pay for college

    These are things that in my mind everyone deserves I also agree with a decent minimum wage say double the currrent american one which is roughly what my one is
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    These are things that in my mind everyone deserves I also agree with a decent minimum wage say double the currrent american one which is roughly what my one is
    Are you aware of what the minimum wage is in America? $7.50/hour. (coming early '09) Which is plenty for someone to live on. Upper wages in the US are only 15-20/hour.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    By minimal income I did not mean minimum wage. By minimal income I am suggesting the government will ensure a person is provided necessities even if that person never tries to provide for himself. It could be any form you might imagine it to be.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    Well, if corporations - or anyone else - violate people's rights either by force, the threat thereof or (as is more likely) by fraud then the law will protect people from such practices as it would if an individual were to do it.

    I am of the belief that a government is the servant of the people and gains its just powers from the governed. It can therefore never justly do something, scale aside, that an individual cannot do within his own sphere.
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    Default Re: Government should handle . . .

    i was gonna vote but the poll seems somewhat biased, its also far to short. for instance i don't think the government should "provide a minimum income" but i do think they should set a minimum wage. the poll is clearly biased towards the OPs beliefs.
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