Damn, I don't want to play TW serie anymore

[Vagabond]

The TW serie is getting annoyed. Even though alot of new features is or will be introduced ,after RTW , the game getting worse. Back when i play STW or RTW, i felt like CA's crew put their whole heart on making the game, there was so much love, passion and creativity .Now, it's just an ordinary game.I can't no longer play for hours like before.
CA, give us, big old fans of TW serie some ******* passion, NOW

edit:
And you ?, do you still love TW serie ?, if yes , why ?, if not , why ?, tell me

[delra]

Just try a mod. Like Stainless Steel in my sig. There's lot of passion included.

[Juvenal]

Yes, I agree.

I could play Shogun and Medieval I vanilla time after time and still enjoy it. But RTW vanilla soon got tiresome (colours too bright, action too fast and battles over too quickly).

Now I play mods all the time. There is always something new and different, always something to look forward to.

[masterbaker]

Colours too bright? **** me.

[Sardonicus]

I disagree.
If CA had made a clone that played just like Shogun or Medieval1, fans would have been griping about it, saying it plays too much like the old games, not enough changes, but....everytime CA makes changes to it's next TotalWar game, fans moan about how it's been taken too far from the original.

Seems CA's damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I remember the fans overwhelmingly asked for a remake of Medieval Total War
1 using the RTW engine. That's what CA did.
I think CA is taking the series in a great direction with the addition of gunpowder, guns, and moving up the timescale towards modern warfare.
The naval battles alone (if done right) should be worth the price of the game alone.

CA seems to be covering all time periods. If they make one you hate simply stick to the one's you really like.
I love them all.

[Ged]

You can only get so much out of one game on vanilla, go get yerself a mod or get yerself another game,

[Goudvinger]

Or maybe it is because you are getting older, and your imagination becomes less. Atleast that is what I am experiencing at the moment. I am still young (19) but I notice the difference between now and five years ago.

[Tony83]

Whatever you think of the TW series, just look at the opposition. As far as historical strategy games are concerned, for me, nothing comes remotely close to the hours of fun and immersion that CA have given me - and I must have tried most of the "competition".

And the mods are just the cherries on top of the icing of a pretty amazing "cake".

[Vagabond]

Or maybe it is because you are getting older, and your imagination becomes less. Atleast that is what I am experiencing at the moment. I am still young (19) but I notice the difference between now and five years ago.

I think this guy's right. Do you do any psychologize ?
I tried almost every mods out , love SS. I agreed that the game improve alot ( technically, yes) but the game has lost its originality, the game's atmosphere, i mean.
Anyway i don't think CA just lost a client or the community lost a member because his age just got a little older .

[Armatus]

Actually there is some truth to what you say, there are things in both Shogun and Medieval that are not in Medieval 2, but Rome??? Are you serious? what is missing other than battle map dust effects???

I will say that none of the other games have featured hotseat as done in M2 and maybe if you gave that a try with some of us here on the forums it would bring new life into the game for you instead of playing by yourself all the time. If nothing else go on gamespy and play a few battles those are really fun to let off steam, but in my opinion playing the campaign for hours on end with between yourself and the computer is terribly boring... in fact I don't care what game you pick computer love is just not my thing.

If you're interested in trying out hotseat online click on the links in my sig or go join one of the open games in the multiplayer subforum.

[Kratos]

In a way I agree. The best strategy games are the old, simple ones like RTW and AoE2. I don't know why really, it's just how it feels.

[Armatus]

just like movies often times the ones we experience first are the best, but like I said there are special aspects of STW & MTW, and even though we loved those games we were always dreaming about games like Rome & M2 and now that they're here all we do is dream on... it's never ending at some time you just have to sit back and enjoy what you got or start learning how to mod!

[craziii]

meh, I have played all of the games released by ca + countless mods afterwards. RTW is by far the best. the campaign map alone is better than all previous ones (m2tw doesn't count, as it is just a mod of rtw with better textures). I especially love this feature, wherever you start your battle on the campaign map, on the battlemap, you are positioned at the same place with forest or mountains etc, reinforcing armies also come in at the exact places as the campaign map.

unit variety, nothing beats rtw. mtw is bland, stw is even more so, but it is the first game and only about 1 nation.

alot of the broken machanics has to do with CA introducing new features, wish they thoroughly test the game before releasing. if you know you don't have enough resources or time for a feature, don't include it in the retail, I think most of us would rather they include a working feature in an expansion or something. keyword being "working" broken features + game mechanics sucks.

[eggthief]

Well m2tw has no total conversion mods yet (bc is almost there tho) so I can imagine that people got bored meanwhile. I think that CA needs to make the following tw games even more moddable since most people tend to get bored with vanilla real quickly.

[boerekovic]

Dude, if you dont like it,leave it.
Stop complaining here and stop opening threads.
Yeah, i havent read the other posts but ive read your first one.
I think Goudvinger is right,that same thing has happened to me,
in RTW i had much more Fun even when it sucks more today,
I havent tried any M2tw mods but i will try/play forever BC.
Maybe it was because Romes athmosphere was better for me then, 3 years ago.
Still these are great games.

[Old Geezer]

Get a job and work 10 or 20 years; then come back and try it.

[Otherside]

Too bad
total war are all great games head and shoulders above the piss poor rest you can only compare them to each other.

mtw2 was great few problems but none the less great.

[Exarch]

i loved R:TW and love M2:TW and their expansions, but i'm scared
scared that i wont enjoy Empire:TW and the new battle tactics of muskets.
i've used muskets in M2:TW but found that they took so long to reload and fire, as opposed to archers...
i'm gonna miss cavalry tactics

[Armatus]

I'll tell you what... you want passion? Then you need to start checking out the mods. Here Medieval II: Hosted Modifications Here Kingdoms: Hosted Modifications

But if you ask me it comes down to two words... Broken Crescent

[fishjie]

so far i have been very pleased with my purchase of the game. personally, i prefer the 2d paper map of mtw1, because it got me interested in geography. its also easier to see where your units are. however, from a tactical perspective, the gameplay is deeper with a 3d map. otherwise i've got no real gripes with the game.

its probably the only good turn based, real time strategy hybrid i have seen.