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    Icon5 Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    has anyone seen men from there phanlanxes straying from the group i mean far from the group even if there not routing for some weird reason the keep getting knocked down by some invisible thing as the slide away from the group its happening alot and its freakin me out does any one know something helpful about this?:hmmm: in the past you guys have known about some other problems so i thought i could see if any of the people at the forum could help.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Did you charge them in the rear with your cavalry perhaps?


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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    yes but sometimes it does it with out calvary in melee with the rear it did in one time when i put a phalanx in front of the brige and once it got in melee the men started straying?

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    If it is a bug, its a good one IMO. Since it makes it much harder to cavalry charge them in the rear a second time, when some of the men are facing you.


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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    The coherency of phalanx do really suffer weird hits from game engine from time to time. I think I experienced what nero described several times...its just weird, yet happening. So dont worry bro, you not alone

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    It makes sense to me and is good for the AI. After I cavalry charge them, they have guys with spears pointing out from behind, so if I charge them again, it won't be a rear charge and I'll get massacred.


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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Yeah but to me it happened that they just went off the group...

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    its a bug.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    i think it dates from vanilla




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    yes the 1.3 and 1.5 patches What happens is practally no one plays the vanilla so they dont know. lol I cant blame them with all the great mods out there I wouldnt either.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Quote Originally Posted by lt1956 View Post
    yes the 1.3 and 1.5 patches What happens is practally no one plays the vanilla so they dont know. lol I cant blame them with all the great mods out there I wouldnt either.
    TBH, I played vanilla from 2004 til 2007 before I discovered this site and the mods So I enjoyed the weird phalanxes alot even in vanilla

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Actually I always thought this was intentional -- seriously. It makes AI phalanxes so much better.

    Probably the reason I never saw it in vanilla was cause if I charged a phalanx, I would always beat it and not have time to pull back for another charge.. lol


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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier View Post
    Actually I always thought this was intentional -- seriously. It makes AI phalanxes so much better.

    Probably the reason I never saw it in vanilla was cause if I charged a phalanx, I would always beat it and not have time to pull back for another charge.. lol
    well imo the phalanx would lose coherency if they´d intentionally turned around, yes they´d be nice hedgedog, but still victory would belong to the other side...

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier View Post
    Actually I always thought this was intentional -- seriously. It makes AI phalanxes so much better.

    Probably the reason I never saw it in vanilla was cause if I charged a phalanx, I would always beat it and not have time to pull back for another charge.. lol
    This was totally opsite for me in vanilla, i would flank with cavalry but there would be half the unit way out there and my cavalry would charge and hit that half of the unit and 9 times outta ten 2/5 of my cavalry would die haha
    it was annoying.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    So there is no fix for the problem?

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Guess not, maybe stop using phalanxes or maneuvereing them in the battle

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    i think CZEPOWERSLAVE and GARNIER are talking about 2 different bugs
    CZEPOWERSLAVE is talking about the bug were 1 man of a unit is far far away of the rest and is knocked over but something invisible all the time.
    GARNIER is talking about the bug (which i never saw in vanilla, only in SPQR) where after a charge some men of the unit turn around and walk to your cav
    and they sometimes walk FAR.

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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Those are both Vanilla bugs, sometimes Vanilla bugs show up even more in mods. but in this case there were discussions on these bugs and if CA would fix them, they never did.
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    Default Re: Phalanxes straying from the group what the heck?

    Yeah I have the same problem too the move away from the main body like they have fits !!! Like King Leonidas said one weak spot and th entire phalanx falls and that is why they are not as good as in the rome 1.5 without the mod !!! It is important to make phalanx as perfect as possible as they are more disciplined than evn the romans themselves !!!

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    The second bug happens to most units, you attack them, they runaway, your units follow one at a time walking.

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