Any existing tweaks or such to tone donw the Ptolemaic mania?

[Charging_Knight]

Any existing tweaks or such to tone donw the Ptolemaic mania? I mean perhaps someone has made a minimod or something which either reduces the recruitment zones of the galatians or maybe made them more expensive or something?:hmmm:The Ptolies mess up any hopes of playing a historical game by trashing up not only the Seleucids, but the Pontines and Armenians also and as a result I have never got a chance to engage the Seleucids in battle ever!It sucks for me trying to do a mega AAR on the rise of Rome as historicity is going out the window with this madness

[eggthief]

I think that if you limit their recruitment possibilities for galatians that they will just recruit other units instead, which wouldn´t make much of a difference.

[Arutima]

roman game, 163 bc.


the thing that help them too much is that they share the same barracks as the seleukids, and the fact that they can get galatian swordsmen about anywhere in the east

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

In 080 people were angry about the Seleukids killing off the Ptolemai too fast, now it is the other way around. There is balancing issues, but there are so many factors in balancing, and the tiniest thing can throw the balance all off.

I agree about the Galatians...

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

roman game, 163 bc.


the thing that help them too much is that they share the same barracks as the seleukids, and the fact that they can get galatian swordsmen about anywhere in the east

Wow, that's crazy! I was lucky I attacked Alexandria at like 250 BC or something so the Egyptians weren't able to take Tarsus and all so the Selekids still live. When I took over Macedonia though, I was attacked by an Egyptian army and I realized they controlled all of western Anatolia and Byzantium =/

Your situation is just Madness. Madness even beyond Sparta.

Here's my campaign (VH campaign, M battle) screeny:

[Charging_Knight]

If they would recruit theurophoroi or just phalanxes alone or even the machimoi egyptian swordsmen or any other units like nubians or such, it would be so much easier, the problem is those goddamn maniac galatians who smash legions easily and assume anything else also

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I've brought up the Galatians on the internal forums...

[chenkai11]

I don't find galatian are hard to defeat oponents, AI is having problems with them? They are so vulnerable to cavalry charge. May be it's their elite phalanx unit? Man, they are tough to defeat, never rout even flanked by my carthaginians in all directions.

[Arutima]

galatians are deadly in auto resolve battles, wich i s why other ai factions are getting owned over and over

[eggthief]

what about improving the Saba a lot?

[mcantu]

A land-bridge between them and carthage would help...

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

Yeah, they're a bit tough to rout but the problem is that the Ptolemi manage to bring forth stack after stack of them. I annexed Alexandria, Memphis and all their cities to the west but they just kept hitting me with 3's and 4's coming up north from their three southern cities every turn.

[eggthief]

How about giving the as and ptolemies money whenever one of their cities has been captured by the other?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

How about giving the as and ptolemies money whenever one of their cities has been captured by the other?

The problem with that is that sometimes they ally with eachother and then the lesser power would be using that money to beat up the minor factions.

[eggthief]

The problem with that is that sometimes they ally with eachother and then the lesser power would be using that money to beat up the minor factions.

Ok, how about doing it the other way around and reduce their treasury whenever they take each other's settlements?

[vancouver]

In RTR, Ptolemaic units took two turns to recuit, you can try doing that and see if that slows them from conquering so much.

[eggthief]

seems a bit unfair to me if they are played by a player and a bit not historical

[Ramesses the Great]

In RTR Ptolemaic sucks when compared to the Seleucids or Macedonians.
I'm playing with the Ptolemaioi and I think they are great, they have great (historic) units, and a great treasury, that's why they conquer so much.

[Miros_G]

I think the only solution is letting them share their barracks with another faction, so that they can't spam galatians and elite phalanxes the minute they take a Seleucid settlement.
That, and maybe restricting the Galatians as a recruitable unit to Asia Minor and Alexandria. And making it a pure merc unit for the rest of Asia.

Just some suggestions though...

Cheers!

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

That, and maybe restricting the Galatians as a recruitable unit to Asia Minor and Alexandria. And making it a pure merc unit for the rest of Asia.
Cheers!

Why not restrict normal Galatian recruitment to just the province of Galatia? That's where they live, after all. After their defeat by the Selucids they didn't establish any more Gallic communities outside of Galatia to my knowledge.

Restricting their normal recruitment to one province will stop the Ptolemaic AI from spamming them and using them in overwhelming numbers to destroy the Selucid AI.

Although I agree, as mercs the Galatians should be available anywhere in Asia Minor. Not in large numbers though.