Proposal : Dark age mod (750-1000) ish for Stainless steel

[Sosobra]

Pretty much what the title says a dark age era mod for Stainless Steel anyone interested. I can text edit (vnvs units), faction add, bug hunt, and do small amounts of scripting.
Anyone interested?

date would probably start around 843 and end several years after the invasion of england by William.
The campin would follow several themes ,
1. the Breaking up the Frankish kingdom
2. The Viking raids on england and possiable conquest
3. The conquest of the Muslims, consolidation and defense and further expansion.
3. the Internal struggles of england.
4. Byzantium's fall or rise in European theater.
5. The rise of kingdoms in Eastern Europe.
6. Possible what if traits and scripts ie successful Muslim invasion of france, unifying the franks etc

[Orko]

That's a nice Idea.
I think you should ask the SS team leader.
BTW if you want afaction list:
Frankish Empire
Lombards
Wessex
Mecia
Northunbria
Picts
Dal Riada
Munster
Asturia
Basque kingdom
The Calighate
Princ. of Kiev
Poles
Bohemia
Croats
Serbs
Papal state
Saxonians
Danes
Norweigns
Swedes
Hame(Finnish)
Magyars
Bulgars
ERE

[firekiller]

well olmost the same as wrath of the norseman then but still a good idee

[Sosobra]

I have the Kongs blessing .


http://www.euratlas.net/PHA/history_...e_map_0900.jpg

[Miraj]

Awsome idea. This age was so much cooler and dangerous...

[Sosobra]

possible factions

West Franks
East Franks
Lotharingia
Denmark
Norway
Kingdom of Italy (Lombards)
Burgundy
Leon
Basques (pamplona)
Omayyds
Tuluids
Abbasids
ERE
Magyars
Keiv
Wessex
Alba
Irish (one of the groups)
York or Northumbria
Bulgars
Polish tribes
maybe Kazhars
Bulgarian Khanate
Lithuanians or some other Baltic tribe.
emergent factions.

[Orko]

Not "Leon" but Asturia.
Prefered Northumbria(more historical and Stronger)
Salerno or Benvenuto are good as well.
Irish: Munster or Leinster.

[Antagonist]

Excellent. Dark Age FTW. It's often dismissed by later European medievalists as being a time of beared axemen and such only, which is unfair. IMO in fact the later period (1100+) is far more uniform, as the successful European powers had by then coalesced, with fundamentally similar military and political operations (feudalism etc.) In this period however not only is there more instability and upheaval (the Arabs are moving into Europe rather than vice-versa, steppe peoples like the Avars and Magyars mixing it up) but there is also far greater variation (particularly military) in Europe itself, as several distinct cultures which have largely been homogenized or marginalized by the vanilla period are still active military powers in the 8th Century (Basque people, Celts, Balts, Norse etc.)

Of course, the downside of that is that you need a lot more unit work to depict it. It would be difficult with solely vanilla assets, you'd really need a dedicated modeller or two and skinners to achieve anything like historical accuracy.

A couple of comments on your faction list:

Leon: Asturia instead (Asturia pretty much became Leon around 900 IIRC)
Alba: Again, doesn't form till around 900. Prior to this it is a number of states, but most significantly the Kingdom of the Picts and the far smaller/weaker but culturally influential Irish colony of Dal Riada.
Irish (one of the groups): Control of Ireland was largely contested between two powerful dynasties, the Uí Neill in the North, and the kings of Munster in the South. The latter became much stronger as you move toward 1000 however.
York or Northumbria: The Norse kingdom(s) of Dublin and York would be another interesting faction, but again they don't appear until the 9th and 10th Centuries (obviously, as Norse only appear in Britain and Ireland at all in 793)

Another possibility in that area would be a Brythonic (Welsh) kingdom, such as Gwynedd, who would be militarily different from Anglo-Saxons or Gaels with their emphasis on archery and cavalry, but 5 or 6 factions in such a small space is tough sell.

Anyway, good luck.

Antagonist

[Sosobra]

Trying to go for a 843 starting date
suggetions on that?

[Orko]

Factions:
Asturia
Wessex
Northumbria
Dublin
The eastern kingdom
the Western Kingdom
Kingdom of Italy
Gwynned
Munster
Picts
Dal Riada
Danes
Norway
Sweden
Rus'
Bulgarians
Byzantines
Serbians
Benvenuto
Caliphate of Cordoba
Hame
Veleti
Polanes
maybe 2-3 others

focuse the map only for Europe.
Make Sailable rivers.

[Mauri the Terron]

Benvenuto? Probably you wanna say Benevento in South Italy

[firekiller]

1 byz
2 bulgarian Khanate
3 Rostov
4 Kiev
5 Khanate of Khazars
6 Poles
7 Armania
8 Abbasid califate of Badghdad
9 Georgia or kingdoms of adkhazia
10 Tulunid Emirate
11 Aghlabid Kingdom
12 Idrissid Kingdom
13 Omayyad Emirate of Cordova
14 Toledo (hard so fun)
15 Kingdoms of the Asturias end Gallicia
16 Pamplona
17 Benevento
18 Papel states
19 Kingdom of italie (lombards ?)
20 Burgundy
21 West frankish kingdom
22 easr frankish Kingdoms
23 Kingdom of Brittany
24 Kingdom of denmark
25 Munster
26. Veleti
27. Normay
28 Gotaland
29 Kingdom of alba
30 Kingdom of Wessex
31 Rebels

something like this would be cool

[Orko]

Remove Toledo, Armenia and Rostov.
I don't think they are good factions.
Instead of Alba make Picts, and add Northunmbria and Dal Riada.

[Csatádi]

I suggest to join wrath of the norsemen. This era is not so popular to find enough modders for a separate mod.

[Sosobra]

I have SS blessing to make this a sub era for his mod so we can build of the great SS system.
West Franks
East Franks
Lotharingia
Denmark
Norway
Kingdom of Italy (Lombards)
Burgundy
Asturias
Basques (pamplona)
Omayyds
Tuluids
Abbasids
ERE
Magyars
Kiev/Rus
Wessex
picts
munster
Northumbria
Bulgars
Polanes
Kazhars
Bulgarian Khanate
Lithuanians or some other Baltic tribe.
Strathclyde
Pope
Gwynned

[HaveFallen]

This is awesome, soon we are going to get an SS Forum with it's own subforums lol.

[Sosobra]

843
maps



[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_map_1895.jpg
zoomable.
1. several focus areas (or player/AI goals)
The battle for Bristh Isles and Ireland
The battle power in spain
The emergence of eastern tribes , their conversions, and dealing with none converted neighbors .
The Reunification of Charlemagne old empire.
The Arab- Khazar wars.
The Norman whirled wind tour around Europe.
The possible emergence of the Italian city state or Stable Italian Empire.
Byzantium rise/ fall from power.

[firekiller]

still the aglabids should be in very fun if you are burgundy moors, or an italian state like siclia

[Orko]

You should say Strathclyde and not styclade
Polanes is better than polish tribes
Kiev and not Keiv

[Sosobra]

You should say Strathclyde and not styclade
Polanes is better than polish tribes
Kiev and not Keiv

Thanks for the corrections