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    Default Which is the Best Guitar Hero?

    I know there are some of you GH fans out there, I'm wondering...which is your favorite title? Please vote and then post your choice and explain why. Mostly I've been trying to see if I want to bother getting the first GH and the '80s version for the PS2, if they're not that great then I'll just stick with II and III.

    Also, what are some of your ideas about ways in which to improve the games? I've been thinking about stuff to make the series so much better and hopefully one day they will make these changes...

    1) They should create a way in which when you buy a GH game and put it into your console, there should be an option to automatically download every single track (and its appropriate fret board animation) onto your Xbox 360 or PS3 etc hard drive. Then, when playing later games you have access to almost every song in the series without having to switch games. For instance GH II will download all it's songs onto my console hard drive when I insert the disc and say...enter a key code that can only be used once (to prevent people just passing around one game to get more songs). Then when playing GH III I have access to all the tracks in that game and all the tracks on GH II without having to insert GH II.

    2) A mechanic should be included for players to create their own set lists. Players should be able to take specific songs and put them into a "mix" via the quickplay menu. Then simply hit a "begin" button and ta-da you now have a series of songs YOU want to play without having to play one, exit to the menu, scroll up/down, and pick another...they're all right there.

    3) A "no break" option...when you play venues and set lists you should have the option to play it from beginning to end without having to finish a song, exit to a score menu, exit to a money earned menu, then return to the set list page only to choose the next song. It should be more like a concert with continuous play.

    4) Make the game more RPG like...yes this would defeat the purpose of his "party game" but here me out....

    Alright so GH III sort of gave you a simple story yes? About you being in a band and rising from garage rockers to ultimate superstars, etc etc. Well how 'bout embellishing that concept? Here are some concepts/mechanics that could make it more RPG-like
    - Like with Rock Band, but with a little more have the player able to totally customize and create their character
    - Be able to choose what kind of band you want to be: rock, hard rock, metal, heavy metal and thus your lengthy set lists are all songs that could be lumped into these genres. Example: choosing "heavy metal" would give you songs by the likes of Slayer, Slipknot, Lamb of God, etc while "rock" would give you like The Who, Santana, The Police, etc
    - Be able to do things like choose agents, visit possible venues/clubs to see if they'll let you play, buy equipment, hire roadies/technicians/advertisers, release CDs and see how they sell*, attract groupies, move around the world to different areas, hire/fire band members, include a year/tour cycle**

    5) The ability to free-style! Have a mechanic where it's quite possibly to write your own guitar solo or song that can then be played in a "quick play" fashion or insert your solo into an already existing track.


    *My idea for the CD thing is that at given times in the game when you have enough songs you've been playing live you can choose to record and album. Doing this will put you in "the studio" where you choose a given number of songs from your set-list options to be on the CD. Then you go about recording them. The success of the CD will then depend on how well you scored in recording the given song. You'll only have one shot to record the track to prevent the player from going back and redoing the song until it's perfect in order to sell well. The success of the CD will also depend on your band's current popularity, exposure (under the control of your hired agent or advertiser), price (which you'll be able to set), and the success of your follow up tour.

    **The idea of the year/tour cycle I think would be what would give the game its longevity and replay value. You'd start your band from square one, year zero as it were. As your band gains popularity you'll be able to do more over your alloted time span (which would be either one year or 6 months). In other words when you first start out you may only get one gig that year, meaning if you do horribly you may not get "discovered" for a few years and then you have to look for gigs and maybe put out demos, etc to help you make it. Yet, when you become more popular the demand on your band will increase and you'll have more to do over that time span. These demands would include recording CDs, hiring personnel, planning tours, and essentially actually going on these tours. The tours would take place within a year but would be made up of a series of venues and set-lists in succession of one another...much like how GH is now only with one venue and slightly augmented set-lists every venue. As your band becomes more mainstream your tours will be bigger and longer.

    You'll also have the option to have other bands tour with you and when you're starting out..to go on tour with a headlining band in order to become more popular and known.

    Eventually as the years pass band members will either lose interest, get better offers, or maybe even be affected by special events like "finding jesus" (a la Korn), leaving because of band infighting, or even tragically dying. Your band will also grow and die with the popularity of it. You may play once and have your band last as long as Lynard Skynard or Black Sabbath with 60 year old metal heads rocking out on stage or you may play another time and hardly make it out of the garage...or you may be a flavor of the week and make a small dent and fade away.

    These are just some ideas that I think would make the game a little better. Got any more?
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    Default Re: Which is the Best Guitar Hero?

    I am not an experienced GH player and the only experience I have from is from late night parties. I really enjoyed the second and have to say the third is preatty much the same.

    I have no experience at all from the first installment in the series. I know this is probably not even close to the answer you were looking for but I just wanted to express my thoughts


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    Never played 3, but 2 is my favorite.
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    All of those gaps give your hands some time to rest. You don't wank vigorously and constantly, you give it some time to heal after going at it again.

    Look at Guitar Hero as one big penis.

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    GH3 simply because I feel it has the best song list though I have enjoyed all of them.

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    What's wrong with GH1? It should get a **** load (not of **** as the Angry Video Game Nerd would say! ) of extra points purely because it's simply awesome idea! I subscribe to a Finnish mag and they gave GH a 11/10 when their normal rating scale go up to 100 (although 99 would be more realistic ).
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    The correct answer is none of the above, as Rock Band has subsequently beaten all of them. Ok Ok, this is just my opinion, but unless you're financially challenged I don't see how Guitar Hero 4 will be able to compete.

    It's just that Rock Band is at least two times the content that GH ever will be. If you're a hardcore fake guitar player, I can see you sticking with GH franchise, but I wonder how many people that really is (if RB leaderboards are any indication, less than 50k per platform.) Also, as per their own admission, the GH franchise was a prelude franchise leading up to Rock Band, which was the ultimate goal from the first GH days.

    And I hear that GH3 is pretty stingy with the downloadable content. Harmonix has released songs every week (at least 3 at a time) since Rock Band went on sale, and shows no sign of slowing down. The only downside to the whole deal that I can see is that EA is involved. But then again, Activision is involved in GH3 and they can be royal pricks too (just ask any PS3 Rock Band player.)

    Finally, I have only played II, so I voted for that one.
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    Sorry to hijack the thread, but how do you play Rock Band? Do you actually sing? Do you have multiple instruments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    Sorry to hijack the thread, but how do you play Rock Band? Do you actually sing? Do you have multiple instruments?
    Well, the guitar is pretty obvious. If you've ever played GH, its almost virtually the same. (The RB controller has solo keys where you don't need to strum and an effects switch, both are just gimmicks).

    The mic is pretty much a real mic. Yes, you do sing into it. Think of it as a karaoke machine that actually rates you on your pitch. You can sing an octave higher or lower, as long as you're on the right note. Or you can hum. They also have talky parts (see Conan O'Brien doing Beastie Boys' Sabotage as Edith Bunker for an example), where the words and timing are most important, but pitch is not.

    The drums are the most fun. It's an actual drum set with four colored pads representing different drums and cymbals, etc, and it has a foot pedal to simulate the bass drums. It's the most challenging instrument by far.

    When you have four players together in a band and a decent sized audience, it is an awesome experience.

    You know what, let's not hijack after all, I'll make its own thread.
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    I hate the guitar that comes with rock band, it's crap compared to the GH guitar.

    Other than that, I think Rock Band is a better concept.
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    Yeah RB is the next step but it's not like the two games are competing with one another...they're made by the same people if I recall correctly so money from both games goes to the same people. I don't think the GH franchise will stop now though. Hopefully they'll explore more concepts and ideas however to make the game more unique (maybe implement some of the ideas I stated which wouldn't be too hard at least numbers 1 - 3 and 5).

    At the same time when concerning these games RB is more of the rich man's game. To take full advantage of it you can either cough up an ungodly amount of cash for the game with the all the instruments (guitar, drums, and microphone) and either play all of them one at a time by yourself or always have friends over to get the whole band experience. Plus you'll also need to buy ANOTHER guitar is you want a bass guitarist.

    The GH franchise will always be 100 bucks with the game + guitar and if you ever bought any of the past games chances are you can use the old guitar and just buy the game for $50.

    Plus, right now I think half of RB's tracks are also on GH III...

    The consistent downloadable content sounds cool. But don't you need to be a paying member of Xbox Live in order to download these tracks? Or at least pay for them? Consistently paying for crap for a game is just not my thing (that's why I'm a fervent hater of MMORPGs).
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    Activision purchased GH from Harmonix and created GH3.

    Then Harmonix created Rock Band.

    So no, they aren't made by the same people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    Activision purchased GH from Harmonix and created GH3.

    Then Harmonix created Rock Band.

    So no, they aren't made by the same people.
    That's right, my mistake, but Activision has been publishing it the entire time...you're thinking of Neversoft who recently purchased the franchise.

    Get this...according to Wiki there will be a GH IV but supposedly it will center around Aerosmith who are working closely with the developers. If that actually happens I will NOT be buying GH IV and by then RB will be cheap enough for me to start into that franchise.

    Also get this...Activision has also trademarked the titles "Guitar Villain", "Drum Villain", "Keyboard Hero", "Drum Hero", and "Band Hero". What the hell would a "Guitar Villain" game be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VOP2288 View Post
    That's right, my mistake, but Activision has been publishing it the entire time...you're thinking of Neversoft who recently purchased the franchise.
    No, RedOctane was the publisher of GH 1 and 2, who was recently bought by Activision. Neversoft is a developer owned by Activision who took over creation of GH since Harmonix doesn't work for RedOctane (and by extension Activision) anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    No, RedOctane was the publisher of GH 1 and 2, who was recently bought by Activision. Neversoft is a developer owned by Activision who took over creation of GH since Harmonix doesn't work for RedOctane (and by extension Activision) anymore.
    Christ - are we seriously going to nit-pick at the details here?

    BTW...for the record even though I'm the creator of the thread I have yet to vote...I can't decide between II and III. II was the first one I played and by now am really good at, it's fun, it showed me some areas of classic rock were cooler than I thought plus...it has Free Bird! III was more "modern" it had more tracks that were from the last twenty or so years...more hard rocks and some metal songs (which is the kind of music I like) but the game proves to be incredibly hard sometimes and even hard enough to make you want to stop playing...but how I love Kool Thing and My Name is Jonas and naturally 3's and 7's and Before I Forget (even though it is a ***** on hard)
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    Quote Originally Posted by VOP2288 View Post
    Christ - are we seriously going to nit-pick at the details here?
    Ha, we are when you tell me I'm wrong when I clearly am not
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    Quote Originally Posted by VOP2288 View Post
    I actually didn't say you were wrong...go back and read what I put.
    Quote Originally Posted by VOP2288 View Post
    That's right, my mistake, but Activision has been publishing it the entire time...you're thinking of Neversoft who recently purchased the franchise.
    And it's not a big deal, I just have this thing about not losing arguments when I'm right.
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    You cant shoot people, live in Oblivion or command medieval armies, but you can play 100% real guitar.
    Jesus CHrist !!! buy it and enjoy, not some plastic ****.
    What's next "**** Hero"? With rubber woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xam Enyap View Post
    You cant shoot people, live in Oblivion or command medieval armies, but you can play 100% real guitar.
    Jesus CHrist !!! buy it and enjoy, not some plastic ****.
    What's next "**** Hero"? With rubber woman
    Waaaaah. It's a game. People enjoy it. Try not to be such a killjoy.

    If you don't like the RB controller just use the GH3 or GH2 one. They both work on RB. You don't get the solo keys, but they're not really necessary.


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