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    Found this surfing today, pretty interesting.

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    America's Pursuit Of Happiness

    Public Opinion: Each time you open a newspaper or turn on a TV, you'll hear how unhappy, glum and dissatisfied Americans are. Don't believe it. The U.S. is, to borrow a phrase, the happiest place on Earth.

    A long-forgotten 1960s movie title pretty much sums up how Americans feel about their lives: "What's So Bad About Feeling Good?" According to a new Gallup Poll, for most people that's not just a rhetorical question.

    "Most Americans say they are generally happy, with a slim majority saying they are 'very happy,'" according to the Gallup Poll released on the final day of 2007. "More than 8 in 10 Americans say they are satisfied with their personal lives at this time, including a solid majority who say they are 'very satisfied.'"

    Another extensive survey conducted in 2007 by the Pew Research Center found that 65% of Americans termed themselves "satisfied" with their lives. That compares with the four economic powerhouses of Britain, France, Germany and Italy, which averaged about 53%.

    This difference isn't something new. It's been around for a long time. It's a part of what foreign-affairs mavens call "American exceptionalism." The question is, why are Americans so darned happy?

    For one thing, Americans are far richer than those in other countries. And yes, this matters. Contrary to popular belief, neither the Europeans nor the Japanese lead better lives than Americans.

    A study a few years back by Sweden's Timbro think tank came to these startling conclusions: Virtually every nation in Europe lagged the U.S. in income. Indeed, if it were a state, the EU would rank 47th in per capita GDP -- on par with Mississippi and West Virginia.

    Americans' homes have roughly twice the square footage per occupant as those in the EU, Americans own more appliances, and, on average, they spend about 77% more each year than Europeans.

    Yet, though the U.S. economy is head-and-shoulders above the others, you'd never know it from our friends in the mainstream media. As repeated surveys show, U.S. media coverage of the economy is overwhelmingly slanted toward the negative side of things.

    But a look at the facts shows something quite different.

    U.S. household wealth climbed from $38.8 trillion in 2002 to $58.6 trillion in the third quarter of 2007, an unprecedented 51% surge in just five years. That includes the recent meltdown in home prices.

    By any historical standard, Americans are unbelievably wealthy.

    Moreover, despite the near-collapse in housing, the U.S. economy remains strong. It grew at a 3.1% rate during the first three quarters, and almost certainly kept growing in the final three months.

    Economist Irwin Stelzer adds another reason why Americans are happy right now: a million new jobs over the last year, a milestone that is underpinning U.S. economic growth right now.

    But can economics really matter that much? You bet. Money may not buy love, but it helps buy happiness. In fact, according to the Pew folks, there's a 72% correlation between per capita GDP growth in a country and its citizens' happiness.

    What about social trends? As economist Irwin Stelzer recently noted, "teenage drug use, pregnancies, smoking and drinking are all on the decline; welfare reform is working, bringing down child poverty, and the divorce rate is falling."

    Oh, and we're having more babies than at any time since the 1970s -- not something that a gloomy, depressed society does. Our 2.1 babies per adult woman puts us at the top of the developed world's fertility rankings (Europe, by comparison, has a population-shrinking 1.5 rate). A child is the biggest bet on a happy future that two people can make.

    Then there's religion. A 2006 Harris Poll found on average that 43% of those in Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain and France believed in a Supreme Being. In the U.S., it's 73%. That suggests a link, in developed nations anyway, between religiosity and happiness.

    Face it, Americans are an unusually happy, optimistic people. In a way, it defines us. A big reason is our economy -- huge, innovative, low-tax and less regulated than others.

    That's what makes us different. Vive la difference!
    With all the doom and gloom we hear about the housing market, fighting 2 wars, dealing with the threat of terrorism, and all the latest "missing blonde/tiger attack/baloon accident" etc sensationalist news, the fact that 85% of Americans according to gallup are happy with their lives is astounding to me.

    I'm curious as to why people think that is. It can't be the media, they have been selling the sky is falling since 04.

    I think it also displays how neurotic our society is, at the same time 85% of the population is satisified, they are also demanding "change" so much that it has become the new buzzword of the election so far and you even have Mitt Romney declaring himself an "agent of change".

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    Allow me to be the first to say it:

    "Ignorance is bliss."

    You walked straight into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice and Mercy View Post
    Allow me to be the first to say it:

    "Ignorance is bliss."

    You walked straight into that.
    Looks like that's a formula for success

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    Well being the world's superpower does have privileges. I've been around Europe, a bit of the Mid-East and the US, and I can honestly say that the US just plain looks substantially better to live in. I don't know how to explain it... it just does...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice and Mercy View Post
    Allow me to be the first to say it:

    "Ignorance is bliss."

    You walked straight into that.

    Being the most financially secure and militarily adept nation in the world is bliss

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    Hmm, I must disagree. Western and Northern Europe look alot better and more prosperous than the US imho. I mean your cities and suburbs look very rich but the minute you go into the countryside it's a whole different world, a very much less actractive one.
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    I think people are happy because of xboxes and ipods to be honest, I think money does make you happy, it makes for a new distraction whenever you're bored, and that makes people happy and content. The fact that our populace feels mostly disconnected from our 2 wars may also factor in.

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    I'm inclined to agree with Justice & Mercy. Or George Orwell.

    "Ignorance is Strength."


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~The Doctor~ View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with Justice & Mercy. Or George Orwell.

    "Ignorance is Strength."
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    A lot of that wealth is on borrowed money, though - a lot of people live in homes and drive cars and buy iPods, but owe money on the house, pay monthly for the car, and took the iPod on credit. We have lots of things; we don't necessarily own lots of things.

    That said, there is a lot of wealth in the US, which is odd considering our relatively low level of schooling and our military spending. I've never traveled extensively in Europe, and haven't been there in years. But I know that when everything has you upset, listing to your favorite songs on your iPhone between playing Halo 3 is mind-numbingly fun.

    Not intellectually stimulating, but fun nonetheless. Not worrying about all the horrors of the world is reassuring, ignorance certainly is strength and happiness. There's a lot to know, and there's a lot to be saddened by.

    I guess in the "worldly aware" aspect, some are more equal than others.


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    I'd like to see a happiness comparison of countries across the world. A Gallup poll that only surveys Americans is fairly useless; what if the rest of the world all say 9 out of 10 are satisfied thereby meaning Americans are UNHAPPY by comparison? None of the other stuff listed has anything more to do with hapiness than invididual HDI indicators (they can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index). Of the OECD countries it appears Belgium, the US and poster-boy Luxembourg are dropping like flies.

    A study a few years back by Sweden's Timbro think tank came to these startling conclusions: Virtually every nation in Europe lagged the U.S. in income. Indeed, if it were a state, the EU would rank 47th in per capita GDP -- on par with Mississippi and West Virginia.
    That is an intentionally misleading comparison, and hardly 'startling'. It's like saying "the whole of the Americas have a per capita GDP on par with the Ukraine" or "London's Brixton".

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    For one thing, Americans are far richer than those in other countries. And yes, this matters. Contrary to popular belief, neither the Europeans nor the Japanese lead better lives than Americans.
    And people in the UAE are far richer than Americans. Proving this does NOT matter, the UAE from all reports is not somewhere you'd want to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    Looks like that's a formula for success

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    Well being the world's superpower does have privileges. I've been around Europe, a bit of the Mid-East and the US, and I can honestly say that the US just plain looks substantially better to live in. I don't know how to explain it... it just does...
    Everything is newer in the US for the most part and that makes a big difference. Plumbing in urban areas in Europe is medieval by US standards far too often.


    Quote Originally Posted by Maraud View Post
    Hmm, I must disagree. Western and Northern Europe look alot better and more prosperous than the US imho. I mean your cities and suburbs look very rich but the minute you go into the countryside it's a whole different world, a very much less actractive one.
    The EU has its trailer parks too. America has a lot more space, and it is hard to argue that America isn't more beautiful than Europe and more accessible to the average American.



    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    That is an intentionally misleading comparison, and hardly 'startling'. It's like saying "the whole of the Americas have a per capita GDP on par with the Ukraine" or "London's Brixton".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...GDP_per_capita
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita_(nominal)

    And people in the UAE are far richer than Americans. Proving this does NOT matter, the UAE from all reports is not somewhere you'd want to live.
    How does one thing prove the other? The UAE lives at the whim of its neighbors, while the US' neighbors live at its whim; maybe the key is the combination of money and power.

    Americans upper classes I have been told also report higher levels of satisfaction if not happiness than Europeans, so the ignorance argument only goes so far, as America's upper classes are educated in what most consider to be the premiere education systems available today.

    Travel also plays a part, many places in Europe depend on American and Japanese travel, while few places in the US care about any foreigners visiting. Who knows, maybe people in the US are more easily satisfied with life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~The Doctor~ View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with Justice & Mercy. Or George Orwell.

    "Ignorance is Strength."
    Eh, that's false.

    Ignorance certainly is bliss, but strength?

    No, that's not what Orwell meant. He was talking about the tendency of the statists to say one thing and mean another.

    EDIT: Oh, and I'd like to point out that I don't think Americans are happier because they're more ignorant. Except maybe the rural backwaters, who have an entire culture built on ignonrance, yet can generally be happy. There are far more factors than that.
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    This might be true, might not. Several of these happiness tests show that people in some of the poorest and most war torn communities of sub-Saharan Africa are among the happiest on earth, I've seen one where the residents of Northern Ireland were the happiest. This a bit like asking are you religious?

    Another type of test which provides massively different results depending on how the question is asked. due to cultural differences these types of tests are generally meaningless.
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    Don't compare the US and "Europeans". Again, that's like comparing Romania and the whole of the Americas and coming to the conclusion that Romania is better in whatever aspect it is in question than the US because the US and Canada are dragged down by the rest of the continent.

    The US is much more homogenous than Europe remember. Europe and the EU is still an east and west for the most part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper View Post
    Everything is newer in the US for the most part and that makes a big difference. Plumbing in urban areas in Europe is medieval by US standards far too often.
    True. Then again, plumbing in the US may be medieval by Japanese standards. But yeah, I don't think I'd want to live in a European house. This is something where I think much of the continent falls down except the likes of Scandanavia and the UK and a few other places.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper View Post
    The EU has its trailer parks too. America has a lot more space, and it is hard to argue that America isn't more beautiful than Europe and more accessible to the average American.
    I think Europe looks much more beautiful than the US in parts. Italy, France, Croatia, anywhere else on the Mediteranean, Scandanavia. The best of Europe surpasses the best of the US beauty-wise. In general I think the US countryside looks nicer (not compared to the aforementioned places though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Don't compare the US and "Europeans". Again, that's like comparing Romania and the whole of the Americas and coming to the conclusion that Romania is better in whatever aspect it is in question than the US because the US and Canada are dragged down by the rest of the continent.

    The US is much more homogenous than Europe remember. Europe and the EU is still an east and west for the most part.
    I disagree, while the US is slightly more homogenous, the US is a land mass similar in size to Europe and the modern difference between someone from Kansas and someone from California is similar to the difference between a Brit and a Romanian. The US is not nearly as homogenous as most Europeans would suspect, and Europe is far more homogenous than I think even Europeans suspect to an outsider. The US is a NorthEast, a MidWest, a NorthWest, a Pacific Northwest, a South, a Deep South, a Bible Belt, a SouthWest, a California and a Texas. The US is dragged down by places like Alabama as the EU is dragged down by Romania.

    It is not a perfect comparison but a satisfactory one.


    True. Then again, plumbing in the US may be medieval by Japanese standards. But yeah, I don't think I'd want to live in a European house. This is something where I think much of the continent falls down except the likes of Scandanavia and the UK and a few other places.
    The UK could use some work on plumbing as well, but so could West Virginia. Scandanavia is like Maine or New Hampshire. White, slightly fascist, mostly socialist and filled people who all seem to know each other.


    I think Europe looks much more beautiful than the US in parts. Italy, France, Croatia, anywhere else on the Mediteranean, Scandanavia. The best of Europe surpasses the best of the US beauty-wise. In general I think the US countryside looks nicer (not compared to the aforementioned places though).
    I agree for the most part and I was referring specifically to the average countryside. Europe has no plains though, and there is a beauty to the plains that is hard to properly describe. While the US has things comparable to any in Europe, Europe has no Mesas or Everglades and the US has far more land untouched by man. The redwood forests surpass anything in the Swiss Alps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper View Post
    I disagree, while the US is slightly more homogenous, the US is a land mass similar in size to Europe and the modern difference between someone from Kansas and someone from California is similar to the difference between a Brit and a Romanian. The US is not nearly as homogenous as most Europeans would suspect, and Europe is far more homogenous than I think even Europeans suspect to an outsider. The US is a NorthEast, a MidWest, a NorthWest, a Pacific Northwest, a South, a Deep South, a Bible Belt, a SouthWest, a California and a Texas. The US is dragged down by places like Alabama as the EU is dragged down by Romania.

    It is not a perfect comparison but a satisfactory one.
    Actually it isn't.

    British and romanian? These people do not share nationality, language, religion, culture... In fact, huge majority of british when compared with huge majority of romanians are vastly different compared to majority of americans from any given two states.



    The UK could use some work on plumbing as well, but so could West Virginia. Scandanavia is like Maine or New Hampshire. White, slightly fascist, mostly socialist and filled people who all seem to know each other.
    Would this be based on your personal experience or assumptions?



    I agree for the most part and I was referring specifically to the average countryside. Europe has no plains though, and there is a beauty to the plains that is hard to properly describe. While the US has things comparable to any in Europe, Europe has no Mesas or Everglades and the US has far more land untouched by man. The redwood forests surpass anything in the Swiss Alps.
    Have you tried Alps? Have you tried Schwarzwald or forests of nordic nations? (specially during winter)...

    Or, trump card of all trump cards. History. Oldest of american structures pale in comparison to things you find in Europe. Of which not all are in ruins.

    Not to mention variety of cultures. Not watered down versions of "Little Italy" in USA to boot it. It's the real, (mainly, due to immigration) 100% thing.

    USA definitely does not have everything Europe can offer.


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    Nor dose europe for one thing we don't have ridiculous violence laws.
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    The bible belt skews the statistics. Religious people are statistically happier (and less highly educated).

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    Really they are? You know that statisticley mormens who are better educated attend services more than less educated mormens?
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    Of course Americans are happy, their government is creating more and more debt for the next generation in order to hide the fact that the U.S is in the midst of a financial crisis. Currently the U.S Treasury needs to attract 3 billion dollars of foreign investment every single day just to stay level.

    Most Americans haven't realized this yet and so they are still happy. Soon the bill will be presented.

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    Actually, most people know about it, but believe the politicians when they promise it'll get better.
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