Christmass In Montenegro

[jimmy spong]

as you all know Christmas is a celebration of forgiving peace and love

as some of you maybe know since Montenegro gained its independence , Montenegro is divided between Montenegrin(docleans as Serbian says) and Serbians (gypsies as Montenegrin says )

here how do they wish christmass to each other over sms :

usefull: mirash - bishop of montenegrin ortodox church
st. peter - our ruler from the turks fighting age
docleans-hardcore montenegrins

in original (serbian one ) : / free translation:

nek ti je srecno drvo sveto / may the lucky be you holy tree
u dom srpski donijeto / in serbian home that you bringed in
i pali tanka dzeferdara / and set on fire you thin musket
rad fukara i dushmana / againts bastards and enemies
shto mirashu podjoshe gadu / that gone to mirash little gitt
posra mu se pas u bradu / may the dog in his beard :wub:.

really christian aint it ?
what a nice wishes for christmas

now a montenegrin one

original : / my translation :

sveti petre / st. peter from cetinje
sa cetinja / you spiritual mountain lion
ti duhovni lave gorski / mind the people montenegrin
chuvaj narod crnogorski / and let the yule log burn
a badnjaci nek gore / from the breast of montenegro
iz njedara crne gore/

this one i'll leave for you to comment
and all of this stuff is completely supported by both montenegrin and serbian ortodox church - and they ask me why i dont go to church ?

and here is the one completely political even if this is religious celebration

usefull: milo - name of montenegrin formal president and prime minister - montenegrin

badnje veche tiho pada / yule's eve is silently falling
sva se crna gora nada / all the montenegro is hoping
rodjenje se hrista slavi / birth of jesus is celebrated
badnjak da se pred oltar stavi / and the yule log on oltar is set
da nam sunce opet grije / so the sun is again set
da se na nas bog nasmije / so the god smiles upon as again
da nam vrati majsku zoru / to return us our "majsku zoru"
i uzdigne crnu goru / and make the montenegro great
da nam pruizi sjeme mira / to give us aa peace
i da nam vrati glas pastira / i return us a voice of shepherds
da se bozja rijec prihvati / for a gods word to be accepted
da se nama milo vrati / that milo comes back to us again
da se vrati i da kaze / to come back and to say
da se svako sa svakim slaze / so everyone goes the same way
ministri da se ne glade / ministers not to lick themselves
no da trche i da rade / but to run and work
da nas milo sve povede / for milo to lead as all
do pobjede da nas dovede / to gain a victory for us all
badnjak milov nocas gori / yule log burn tonight
srecan bozic crnoj gori / happy christmass montenegro

thats where i live....

[Dracula]

I didn't understand the serbian .As for the montenegrian ,I find nothing bad in it ?! Are you serious ?

[jimmy spong]

they r all political , you have to live here to understand some things , ufortunately im serious

[Dracula]

Of course you understand that politics is not religious ? It has never been anywhere . Hell,in our Church the metropolitans anathemise each other because of politics . Which means religion is not really present in all these cases .

And besides there is something very important .You must always have in mind that not "the serbians say" and not "the montenegrians say" -and this is true for all people in the world - but the "ruling party in Serbia" and the "ruling party in Monte negro" say ... The majority of the people have no idea what's going on ..And don't care . Because they don't profit in either cases ...Only the parties and the rulers do ..so do the bishops ..
Of course you will find a bunch of parrots overexcited about the situation everywhere . Who repeat what they hear with no understanding of the matters .Or just from love to talk .
The things are not that serious as one imagines .

[jimmy spong]

hmmm didnt understand you at all

there are 650.000 people living in my country , everyone knows everyone

everyone knows what happens anywhere

someone is always your relative or cousin

you have to choose side or to shut up and stink

i have choosen to shut up and stink

[Maced0n]

hmmm didnt understand you at all

there are 650.000 people living in my country , everyone knows everyone

everyone knows what happens anywhere

someone is always your relative or cousin

you have to choose side or to shut up and stink

i have choosen to shut up and stink

So how do you see yourself as a Serbian or Montenegro ( CrnoGorac )

[jimmy spong]

So how do you see yourself as a Serbian or Montenegro ( CrnoGorac )

montenegrin

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

I don't understand. Why such bitter rivalry between Serbia and Montenegro in the first place?

[jimmy spong]

I don't understand. Why such bitter rivalry between Serbia and Montenegro in the first place?

no , about serbian and montenegrin that live in montenegro cause there r 100.000 people in montenegro that declare themselves as serbs (even if they live and their ancetors in montenegro for centuries)

serbia as a state doesnt have nothing to do with this

[Dracula]

Some dirty politicians are making some benefits of it . Otherwise I don't see what these countries have to quarrel about . Plus they have same culture .

[removeduser_487563287433]

Yes

well

organised religion.

[Zmaj od Bosne]

Religion in the western Balkans made me into an Agnostic...

Uff, ali sto ovo ovdje stavljas

[Zmaj od Bosne]

From what I have understood isn't it purly random if a person declers him self as a Serb or MOntenigrin?

[jimmy spong]

doesnt have nothing to do with origin

[Dracula]

doesnt have nothing to do with origin

?????????????

[Zmaj od Bosne]

^^
Alan Ford?? haha memories

[phoenix[illusion]]

what is this? So montenegrins are cultural people, and Serbs are not?
this is lie, he only want's to show serbians in wrong light. So don't believe in what he wrote. That wish for christmas in serbian is not true. It is only parody.

[jimmy spong]

no i didnt say that , if you read better youll see that those were both political songs and theres no place for politics on christmass , and dont talk before you read better im not on anyones side i said that they were both uncivilised

those are the songs that provoke hate between people and you cant know nothing about events in MN cause you dont live here

point of all of this is to show that christmass is not celebrated in peace and happiness everywhere

serbian speeking :