Shield Wall Formation in 1.5

[Urse]

Heya, i searched but couldn't find a thread that mentioned my problem,

I have heard around the place that some of the Greek units use the shield wall formation or the schiltron one in the BI, but alas i cant seem to get any of them to work.
Tried reinstalling the mod, totally re-installing RTW and BI, any idea's?

one of the best mods I've played yet btw, only problem is the disorganization of my Spartan and Athenian hoplites as they charge, CHAOS!

[dvk901]

Shieldwall hasn't been implemented in RS yet.

[Urse]

Ah thanks alot, something to look forward to then!

[Ephialtes The Dog]

You can however edit the EDU and add Shield Wall to the GCS hoplites.

[Urse]

Ok, but if the EDU for RS is in the rome data folder, and not in the BI one, i can still add shield_wall to the formation types?

it wont wig out? i'm gonna try it right now anyway...so i guess i will find out

ok, yeah doesn't recognize the formation and the game wont start, bummer...am i missing something?

how is it using BI if it has the old EDU in the folder?

[Squid]

Bear in mind that if you add shieldwall to the RS EDU it will only work if you are using the RS w BI icon. And technically it isn't using BI, just the BI.exe.

[Ephialtes The Dog]

The formations line should read something like this, formation 1, 1, 1, 1, 8, square, shield_wall

[Urse]

Cheers for that, but yeah i am using the RS w/ BI shortcut, so would i just need to add Shield Wall to the list of formations up the top of the EDU? would that help?

[Urse]

Hey thanks a lot, dunno what i was doing...for some reason i was putting a capital in Shield...

but thanks for the patience, i've been having insomnia...it doesn't make you the sharpest pitchfork in the angry mob, CHEERS

[Col Poutting]

Did I understand this right??

In order to add the shieldwall formation I must:

Install RomeTW 1,5; install BI; install RS 1,01b+1,5 patch in the: Rome\BI folder ( and if I dont want to use BI original [just RS] I must delete the content of the BI folder???)
And at the end change the script in the descr_ unit file from the RS mod?

Thank you very much for the help, that is exactly what I am looking for

[dvk901]

Did I understand this right??

In order to add the shieldwall formation I must:

Install RomeTW 1,5; install BI; install RS 1,01b+1,5 patch in the: Rome\BI folder ( and if I dont want to use BI original [just RS] I must delete the content of the BI folder???)
And at the end change the script in the descr_ unit file from the RS mod?

Thank you very much for the help, that is exactly what I am looking for

No, actually, to play RS with BI all you have to do is copy the RomeTW-BI.exe into your RTW directory and play RS with the BI CD. RS does not have to be installed in a BI directory.

[Squid]

If you have BI installed when you install RS there will be an icon on your desktop called RS w BI it will run RS using the BI.exe. The changes that people are talking about are ONLY if you want the shield_wall formation while playing RS, otherwise do not touch the install at all.

[Col Poutting]

actually that what I want.
I want to implement shield wall ability in RS. Thanks I'll try that out.

[Col Poutting]

Ok well I have a problem...
Rs worked very well for rome v1,5 without BI.

I wanted to make the shield wall ability available so:

I deinstalled RomeTW, instaled it again and installed BI ( once with and a second time without the patches in between)
I then installed RS in:
D:\Program Files\Activison\RomeTW (file where rome and BI are installed)
I then installed the 1,5 RS patch in the the same path and tried to start a new campaign. It kept telling there was a text error in the decr strat file (even tough I did not touch it)
I neither could start a saved campaign nor a normal campaign in Rome without mod..

My question is: Must I first install RomeTW+patches ,the RS mod and at the end BI or
Install RomeTW+BI then the RS mod?

Could please someone tell me point for point what I exactly must do to have RS working with BI (so I can add the shield wall) [I don't care if I can play BI separatly as I won't play it]
I would like to have my game installed in D:\Program Files

[Squid]

What other files did you changes, changes you make in one location can and do cause many problems in other places, descr_stat being a prime candidate since just about every part of the game that can be modded can be referenced there directly or indirectly.

[Col Poutting]

That's the weird thing...
After installing BI and then RS I did not mod any file.
I first wanted to make sure the mod would work with BI (lol and I sadly was right to be suspicious)

I'm sure about this: when instaling only Rome(v1.5) I managed to get RS working

Having installed BI (3. try now) nothing works (nor orig game nor the RS mod)

I know I must be doing an error somewhere (as you guys bring it to work), lol but the thing is I do not know where.

Could you please be so kind and tell me step by step how, what, where and when you installed each of the necessary components ??

Thank you verry much for your patience and understanding (I know I may sound stupid, but I'm willing to understand)

[Col Poutting]

Ok I got the mod to work with BIv1,6 installed.

I now can play normaly RS with the RSwBI icon.

I changed in the RTW export_unit_descr the file so that spartans can make shield_wall.
They show this ability in the unit description but I can not use it on the field (the button still only gives the possibility to spread out the units or have them compact..)
What change must I aply so that shield wall gets activ?

Thanks for your help.