Brigands and Pirates?

[Siculus]

I'm wondering what the rationale was for lowering the prospect of the appearance of brigands and pirates. The Vanilla settings in desc_strat are B/10 and P/28. In RS they are B/60 and P/90. As I understand how the system works, the higher the number the less likely the appearance.

The setting for brigands at 60 means they almost never appear. I've played about 60 turns as the Romans and seen two small stacks of brigands pop up. And this was with ALL my settlements raising taxes at very high. No wonder you have so much cash in RS early.

I know how to adjust such things myself so that's not the issue. But (the collective) you must have had some reason for such a major change. I thought I'd ask what it was.

Thanks.

Siculus

[Globalhead]

I'm guessing that with the introduction of "Free Peoples" as a faction...and a powerful one as well, reduces the need for random bad guys throughout the campaign. However, someone from the team could prolly explain the rational better.

[dvk901]

What he said. The free people are supposed to be the bigger problem. But as you say, it is easily changed to one's liking.

[MarcusTullius]

I think i prefer the challenge of the free people more than the brigands who were normally much easier to defeat

[Nellup]

I also prefer to fight the free people, so I changed my setting to 999 for the brigands since I've had RS installed and have yet to see any appear.

[Barry]

I set both to 9999 in RTW vanilla. As you expect I have never seen a rebel stack since. Apart from eliminated factions of course.

[Gaius Georgeus]

May I ask you where exactly, resp. in which file, could this be modified? Thank you

EDIT: I found something under descr_rebel_factions.txt. there are "non-region rebels", and their "chance" (of appearing?) is set to 50. Should I change it to 9999, to ensure they will never appear?

[Nellup]

I always change the value at the start of descr_strat (in Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign):

;  webbird, map created by IceTorque          Roma Surrectum Release 1 Build 5.0

campaign		imperial_campaign
options bi
playable
	romans_julii
	romans_brutii
	romans_scipii
	egypt
	seleucid
	carthage
	parthia
	gauls
	germans
	greek_cities
	macedon
	pontus
	armenia
	dacia
	scythia
	spain
	thrace
	numidia
end
unlockable


end
nonplayable
	slave
	britons
end


start_date	473 summer
end_date	800 summer

gladiator_uprising_disabled
night_battles_enabled
brigand_spawn_value 999
pirate_spawn_value 90

Notice the brigand_spawn_value, this is what you want to change, and the pirate one for lowering the appearance of pirates.

[Gaius Georgeus]

Thanks my friend, I found it at last thanks to your guidance...I hope it will work even for my campaign, which is already running...

[Nellup]

Unfortunately it won't, the files in the campaign folder (descr_strat and all the others) are read only upon the start of a campaign, so there'll be no effect on your current campaign.

[Phillieas_Caesar]

I always change the value at the start of descr_strat (in Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign):

;  webbird, map created by IceTorque          Roma Surrectum Release 1 Build 5.0



gladiator_uprising_disabled
night_battles_enabled
brigand_spawn_value 999
pirate_spawn_value 90

Notice the brigand_spawn_value, this is what you want to change, and the pirate one for lowering the appearance of pirates.

okay you do that to lower/raise bandits/pirates. But whats gladiator_uprising_disabled do?

[dvk901]

okay you do that to lower/raise bandits/pirates. But whats gladiator_uprising_disabled do?

That setting is necessary for compatibility with BI. Also, there are no 'gladiator' units in RS anymore.

[Brusilov]

Use the rebels that appear to train up your armies.

[Marcus_Vipsanius]

I like having a rebel army once in a while, it keeps my governers in shape...

They can be a pain, but if you keep in each city a garisson of 1 governer + 4 town watch or something simular you should be able to deal with them.
Just autoresolve (very boring battles) and if you're lucky you governer will get new traits.

[coinich]

So only enable for a fun, random CTD!

[Phillieas_Caesar]

YeaAAAAAAAAAAAAA! CTD YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

feel free to close thread or move or anything. i dont mind.

[Faridus]

if you change those values for pirates and brigands, does it affect a campaign you have already been playing?

[Nellup]

Simple answer - no.