Is anyone playing vanilla M2TW?

[Black_Rider]

Hi!

I have little question:
Is anyone still play vanilla MTW 2 (or with the official patch)?

[Jack of Clubs]

I often play with the vanilla but i do hav patch 1.2

[Vor]

I just can't play Vanilla after playing with mods. It seems a step backwards in terms of AI.

[Rodrico Stak]

I just can't play Vanilla after playing with mods. It seems a step backwards in terms of AI.

Couldn't agree more.

[MunichRules]

i started a campaign with the French some days ago. It is very challenging cause i have all the nations around as enemy ( HRE, Milan, Denmark, England, Portugal (which is conquering Ireland and Wales ;-)) Sicilly and Scotland. Spain is neutral, with Poland Venice and Moors i am staying in Alliance.
I captured Jerusalem, Akkon and another city nearby.
I called for crusade on Antiochia which is the last city the egyptiens owning. Egypt is really weak in this campaign compared with the turks who made o really powerfull territory. Mongols arrive through Bagdhad, headinf versus Antiochia. Venice reached the holy land waiting beore the gates of the city of Antiochia which is sieged by the mongols, which are stying around with about 5 full stack armies. Spain is on the thy way and i am waiting what is happening with my crusade army nearby. Last round mongols were take the city of Anitoichia and the egyptian faction was destroyed. Venice is now surrounded by the mongols. What will happen ...
I am very curios, i have to attack the city otherwise my army will desert.
In the north there is also waiting trouble for me, cause i am invading the britsh island having england, scotland and the portugues (!) agianst me. From the east Denmark, HRE and Milan are heading to me, and from south there is coming Sicilly trying to conquer the coast line.
Fun promising game ...

Before that i tried the german mod for kingdoms: Schwert und Speer 2.0. But i was so mauch dissapointed cause there were to many bugs and script errors, also the gameplay was horrifiing.
So having kingdom installend my vanilla MTW2 is on Patch 1.3 i think.

[nosjo78]

Absolutely NOT VANILLA SUCKS

[Xix]

heh - just bought the game before Christmas. Guess I need to update to SS4.1 or Kingdoms+SS5.1 after I finish my first campaign (which I may abandon anyway as at turn 114 I am clearly the worlds superpower already and now it's all about micromanaging my way to victory.

Tonight I have to refight a very hard battle against Denmark. I attacked his main remaining force and after a very hard fought battle (my 20 unit stack vs Denmarks 43 units that were mostly heavy infantry(fuedal knights) and were attacking my position from all three sides) that I had won I went to attack his fortress and the game crashed. I hadn't saved after my epic battle so i have to redo it tonight. Although, it should be easier as I now know where he will be comming from.

[Lost Crusader]

I'm still playing vanilla, and having a good time with my HRE campaign

[masterbaker]

Vanilla is not ****, there's no time consuming wanking about with game files, and if it was so bollocks no one would have bought M2 in the first place.

[M2TWRocks]

Vanilla is not ****, there's no time consuming wanking about with game files, and if it was so bollocks no one would have bought M2 in the first place.

Lol. True.

I go back and forth between Stainless Steel and Vanilla. Two different playstyles, but I think Vanilla is just as good.

[Summitz]

Absolutely NOT VANILLA SUCKS

I hear this type of things all the time, well people dont appreciate vanilla M2TW, but they dont appreciate the fact that WITHOUT M2TW, there wouldnt BE any of these mods for people to play around with..... The mods are used to enhance gameplay experience, and I agree that mods are better than the original M2TW, but that doesnt mean they start bad mouthing M2TW vanilla, if you dont like it, just dont play it, simple as that.

[Ruprecht]

I'm still playing vanilla, and having a good time with my HRE campaign

I hear ya mate,

I haven't been playing for long but can't see whats so good about mod's like Retrofit ? , I'm struggling to even spot any difference.

After i finish my Grand campaign with HRE i will investigate SS. I have totally ignored the 4 campaigns that come with kingdom's [No family - No crusades]
where is the fun in that.

[Suppeelsker]

I play vanilla. I agree with masterbaker. It is a great game despite it's problems. I love vanilla

[Freelancer]

hell yeah it still rocks

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Hear hear. I play vanilla and besides some minor flaws (stupid AI) I still like it.

[mikeb32123]

I'm still playing vanilla 1.3.

[delra]

Try Stainless Steel, you won't ever go back to vanilla.

[Mythre]

My main problems with vanilla is the low province count, useless two hander infantry (only Varangian guard and JHI and Norse axemen are worth it), 2 year turns, and no swiss confederation... (although they weren't around in the 1080's.... but who cares), and battle AI (campaign AI is... ok... kinda tolerable at least)
Besides that sweet game.

[Vision1984]

My main problems with vanilla is the low province count, useless two hander infantry (only Varangian guard and JHI and Norse axemen are worth it), 2 year turns, and no swiss confederation... (although they weren't around in the 1080's.... but who cares), and battle AI (campaign AI is... ok... kinda tolerable at least)
Besides that sweet game.

Really? My Norse Axeman got owned by a unit of town militia and my seargent spearmen did much better.. I have to use mods otherwise the bugs make it to frustrating.

[masterbaker]

Its a bit of a shame really, M2 could have been a truly awesome game if they just put 2 months extra work in and fixed some of the bugs and bad unit balancing. Even 1 month and it could have been better, and it still would have been out well before Christmas.