lithuanian piety might need different modifiers

**shenryyr** · January 05, 2008, 10:22 AM

playing as lithuania in the early campaign and noticed one of my generals has a Pagan Magician in his retinue, giving him -2 piety. that just made me think some of these modifiers might need different rules for this pagan faction. what other retinue or such involves pagans?

**y2day** · January 05, 2008, 11:21 AM

Also playing as lithuania and getting over run by catholic priest!!!
I have three pagen bishops in a settlement and one catholic priest is ruining my pagen religion there it went from 90% to 68% in just a few turns. Try to assasinate but my assasines are mostly useless. I've read someone is working on this. anyone have and update?

shenryyr
sorry to highjack your thread, but I've also noticed these traits, and I figured you would like an answer to my question too. Hopefully we both get an answer from the great people of this forum.

**delra** · January 05, 2008, 11:33 AM

Try Echad's christmas pack. It should have my fix for Lithuanian temples to make them help in converting.

**y2day** · January 05, 2008, 11:38 AM

delra your always so quick to answer

I have it installed.
Just downloaded echads 1.7 fix. It was listed on this fix pack.

thanks

Now to send those priest back to rome singing the songs of my pagen masters.

**Pyrebound** · January 05, 2008, 01:46 PM

There isnt only one pagan religion, so the pagan magician can also mean praising different pagan gods, that are pagan to the pagan lithuanians. Yes, kinda confusing :p

**shenryyr** · January 05, 2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Pyrebound

There isnt only one pagan religion, so the pagan magician can also mean praising different pagan gods, that are pagan to the pagan lithuanians. Yes, kinda confusing :p

ah that makes sense, I guess. dunno anything about pagans.

**Internazionale** · January 05, 2008, 02:28 PM

The vikings was pagans.

**Internazionale** · January 05, 2008, 02:13 PM

A other pagan belief that is pagan to the pagan Lithuanians? Sounds confusing, but I think in other words its :
They believe in another God, lol.

**zznɟ ǝɥʇ** · January 05, 2008, 03:02 PM

Pagan is a catch-all term that basically means (in M2TW) anyone that worships something other than Allah or the Christian God.

**~~Echad~~** · January 05, 2008, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Fuzz

Pagan is a catch-all term that basically means (in M2TW) anyone that worships something other than Allah or the Christian God.

Well, "pagans" as a general term are used for polytheistic native religions of some people. Dunno if polytheism is a deciding factor here, but Buddhism, Zaratostrianism or Judaism would never be seen by anyone as "pagan", while Shinto and mostly any other religion with multiple gods will be... Also the factor is that pagan countries usually woship different gods in different regions, sorta like Christian patron saints.

Well, the Magician can lower piety, no matter his belief.