Outcome of Reparations for American Slavery

[Tajir]

Say the nearly 40 million African Americans in this country were to ask for reparations of $20,000 per family unit (this would be concluded based on tax forms).

What do you think the outcome would be?

Keep in mind, the Japanese got the same payment after world war 2. Also, keep in mind I'm creating a scenario whereby an organized body of powerful African Americans and a strong following base, makes this request -- no, they demand reparations!

[Chaigidel]

ever see chappelles show?

porkbelly stock, gold stock, car rims, and rap music labels would get a huge boon of extra investors and consumers.

the economy would be busting with fresh flow of cash from an ideally suited consumer

[Matty_P]

I owe them no money. I refuse to pay for anything having to do with slavery.

It happened hundreds of years ago, big deal, stfu African American community.

[Tajir]

ever see chappelles show?

porkbelly stock, gold stock, car rims, and rap music labels would get a huge boon of extra investors and consumers.

the economy would be busting with fresh flow of cash from an ideally suited consumer

I was actually going to use that joke, but I'd get a warning.

I'm afraid this one is an AMERICAN issue.

[Matty_P]

I'm afraid this one is an AMERICAN issue.

I hold American citizenship, as well.

African Americans, it started in the 60's when we copied the Freedom rides from America. Also certain types of rap mostly things like surviving the streets, some of us also take inspiration from jewish holocaust survivors. But mostly we have our culture.

But genetically, Aborigines have the most in common with Asia islanders, not Africans.

Cool.

Secondly, take a lesson from me. The last time my people kicked the "White Devil" out of our land, we fell behind the rest of Africa around 390 years. It was smart to kick the "White Devil" out of our land, but we did it too soon, at the time, 3 different European countries were occupying our land and steadily building the country's infrastructure. I must say, they were very useful in many aspects.

And I must say, people seem very ungrateful for the contributions the white Europeans have made to the world.

If I had a time machine I'd go back and take all the European-made prosperity and innovation from non-Europeans and then we'd see how much you'd like the year 2007.

So ungrateful. I've said it before, what the white man has done for the world is worthy of divine worship. It's unfortunate that most people don't realize this.

[Dunecat]

I was actually going to use that joke, but I'd get a warning.



I'm afraid this one is an AMERICAN issue.

He is an American citizen as well.

*EDIT*-Damn, bested by 20 minutes... How'd I not see that...

[Medicus]

I'm afraid this one is an AMERICAN issue.

Dahir, do you have any right to speak on this issue? Are you black? Are you a journalist, a politician, a scientist, a historian? No.

Most members of TWC have no real authoirty to speak on anything; yet we do. Why? Because we can. So I can tell you, as an Australian who has never met an African-American, who has never visited America, and is certainly not a politician, journalist, historian, or scientist, that your idea is utter bollocks.

]Yeah, according too government policy we weren't human. We were more like Kangaroos and galahs too the white government, we treated worse than the sheep.

I thought you were treated like children (Paternalism and all that)?

I admit I'm not very knowledgeable in this area, though I did spend a Term of Year 12 studying it. Indigenous Australians were treated terribly, and still are in many places.

You may recall Mal Brough sending the army to deal with child neglect and abuse in the NT. Idiot. What a complete :wub:. The ARMY?

After 200 years of white settlement, and 40 years of equality (at least on paper) the Australian government should be able to handle indigenous affairs, yet they can't. It's pathetic.

[Bond]

After 200 years of white settlement, and 40 years of equality (at least on paper) the Australian government should be able to handle indigenous affairs, yet they can't. It's pathetic.

In my humble opinion, there will always be inequalities. My country(USA) was built upon freedom, equality, etc., yet there are still many inequalities within the country. There is hope for change, but in large countries true equality is unattainable. There can only be compromise that gets the minority some rights while keeping the majority satisfied.

[Burnum]

I thought you were treated like children (Paternalism and all that)?

we were treated like animals. You look at the standard of the reserves and missions, you wouldn't let your dog live like that. People dying of diseases that were eradicated from the west. You also got keep in mind that different states and territories had different policies. Paternalism is least part, besides, Stolen generation was racially motivated.

I admit I'm not very knowledgeable in this area, though I did spend a Term of Year 12 studying it. Indigenous Australians were treated terribly, and still are in many places.

under Howard Civil rights for Aboriginals went back twenty years. Yeah, I did Aboriginal studies for my HSC.

You may recall Mal Brough sending the army to deal with child neglect and abuse in the NT. Idiot. What a complete :wub:. The ARMY?

He's tried too strong arm the communities in the Northern Territory. It frightened people who did not understand, most of those people can't speak English. It made the situation than it was.

After 200 years of white settlement, and 40 years of equality (at least on paper) the Australian government should be able to handle indigenous affairs, yet they can't. It's pathetic.

We're sadly not equal by any standards. Health, legal representation, Education, counseling ect. Aboriginal communities are third world communities in a first world and that's not acceptable.

[Tajir]

Dahir, do you have any right to speak on this issue? Are you black? Are you a journalist, a politician, a scientist, a historian? No.

Most members of TWC have no real authoirty to speak on anything; yet we do. Why? Because we can. So I can tell you, as an Australian who has never met an African-American, who has never visited America, and is certainly not a politician, journalist, historian, or scientist, that your idea is utter bollocks.

Yeah, actually, I AM BLACK!! Which gives me the authority and the background to dish out what others have no experience of, period.

I hope that solves everything.

[Medicus]

Yeah, actually, I AM BLACK!! Which gives me the authority and the background to dish out what others have no experience of, period.

I hope that solves everything.

Ah, I see.

You just want a government handout.

[Shaun]

They would be ignored, and they would be told where the door is.

[Tajir]

They would be ignored, and they would be told where the door is.

I'm afraid you're right about that, much of the African American community is and has always been a very passive community. I think they'd actually accept such a punishment as well, sadly.

Guys like Malcolm X and Nat Turner are rare in the Africa American community.

Your poll doesn't make sense whatsoever, so I can't vote. This isn't Pakistan to revolt on things. Whites would not revolt, maybe some protests, same with blacks. Welcome to civilization.

American Revolt, French Revolt, Spanish Civil War -- these weren't ancient events, you know.

Get off your high horse and welcome to the real world, "civlization" my backside, pffft. Humans are still animals, so long as we bleed and get pissed off and break stuff every once in a while.

[Shaun]

I'm afraid you're right about that, much of the African American community is and has always been a very passive community. I think they'd actually accept such a punishment as well, sadly.

Guys like Malcolm X and Nat Turner are rare in the Africa American community.

The thing is, though, if they wanted reparations they should also ask many African countries as well, since blacks had no problems with selling their own people to the white slave traders. Is anyone going to ask, say, Ghana or Senegal or something for reparations? Didn't think so.

[HorseArcher]

Say the nearly 40 million African Americans in this country were to ask for reparations of $20,000 per family unit (this would be concluded based on tax forms).

What do you think the outcome would be?

Keep in mind, the Japanese got the same payment after world war 2. Also, keep in mind I'm creating a scenario whereby an organized body of powerful African Americans and a strong following base, makes this request -- no, they demand reparations!

Your poll doesn't make sense whatsoever, so I can't vote. This isn't Pakistan to revolt on things. Whites would not revolt, maybe some protests, same with blacks.
Neither the "president" who decides on this, remember, the "President of United States" is not a dictator.
Welcome to civilization.

[Burnum]

Won't happen, it's hard enough for Aboriginals to get slavery reparations for what happened 40 years ago from the Government.

looking it up, there isn't really a comparison between Aboriginal reparation where some of the people are still alive snd suffering and African American reparations which happened 200 years. Also African Americans seem more integrated than Aboriginals.

[Tajir]

Won't happen, it's hard enough for Aboriginals to get slavery reparations for what happened 40 years ago from the Government.

I hope Australian Aborigines retake their homeland soon, entirely.

One day, I'll visit a Black--or Brown--or Yellow Australia.

BTW, who do Australian Aborigines identify with mostly, race wise, I've never met one, in the net or real life? :hmmm:

[Burnum]

I hope Australian Aborigines retake their homeland soon, entirely.

What? I live on my homeland, most Aboriginals are more concerned with fact that our Life expectancy is 20 years lower than your Average Australian (or American), or where a Aboriginal Mission was counted the most violent place outside of a war zone, where it isn't uncommon for a eight year olds too become commit suicide or where a white man and Aboriginal commit the same crime the Aboriginal 11 time more likely too go to jail. Just think this an improvement from 40 years ago.

One day, I'll visit a Black--or Brown--or Yellow Australia.

But you will, most of us want equality not a separate Nation.

BTW, who do Australian Aborigines identify with mostly, race wise, I've never met one, in the net or real life?

African Americans, it started in the 60's when we copied the Freedom rides from America. Also certain types of rap mostly things like surviving the streets, some of us also take inspiration from jewish holocaust survivors. But mostly we have our culture.

[Tajir]

What? I live on my homeland, most Aboriginals are more concerned with fact that our Life expectancy is 20 years lower than your Average Australian (or American), or where a Aboriginal Mission was counted the most violent place outside of a war zone, where it isn't uncommon for a eight year olds too become commit suicide or where a white man and Aboriginal commit the same crime the Aboriginal 11 time more likely too go to jail. Just think this an improvement from 40 years ago.


But you will, most of us want equality not a separate Nation.

African Americans, it started in the 60's when we copied the Freedom rides from America. Also certain types of rap mostly things like surviving the streets, some of us also take inspiration from jewish holocaust survivors. But mostly we have our culture.

Cool.

Secondly, take a lesson from me. The last time my people kicked the "White Devil" out of our land, we fell behind the rest of Africa around 390 years. It was smart to kick the "White Devil" out of our land, but we did it too soon, at the time, 3 different European countries were occupying our land and steadily building the country's infrastructure. I must say, they were very useful in many aspects.

[Burnum]

Secondly, take a lesson from me. The last time my people kicked the "White Devil" out of our land, we fell behind the rest of Africa around 390 years. It was smart to kick the "White Devil" out of our land, but we did it too soon, at the time, 3 different European countries were occupying our land and steadily building the country's infrastructure. I must say, they were very useful in many aspects.

White Devils? We're not going kick out White people. The idea Abhorrent too me.

Fun fact: Aboriginals have the oldest living culture, 100 000 at most 20 000 at least.