god doesn’t help people a quote...
why i think ‘god’ doesn’t help people.
here is a quote which sums up why people generally think god does not exist or at least is not necessarily good:
my answer below
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A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students,
“Let me explain the problem science has with religion.
The professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
“You’re a Christian, aren’t you, son?”
“Yes sir,” the student says.
“So you believe in God?”
“Absolutely.”
“Is God good?”
“Sure! God’s good.”
“Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?”
“Yes.”
“Are you good or evil?”
“The Bible says I’m evil.”
The professor grins knowingly. “Aha! The Bible!” ...... He considers for a moment....
“Here’s one for you. Let’s say there’s a sick person over here and you can cure him.
You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?”
“Yes sir, I would.”
“So you’re good...!”
“I wouldn’t say that.”
“But why not say that? You’d help a sick and maimed person if you could.
Most of us would if we could. But God doesn’t.”
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. “He doesn’t, does he?
My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus
to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?”
The student remains silent.
“No, you can’t, can you?” the professor says.
He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
“Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?”
“Er...yes,” the student says.
“Is Satan good?”
The student doesn’t hesitate on this one. “No.”
“Then where does Satan come from?”
The student falters. “From God”
“That’s right. God made Satan, didn’t he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?”
“Yes, sir.”
“Evil’s everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything, correct?”
“Yes.”
“So who created evil?” The professor continued, “If God created everything,
then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle
that our works define who we are, then God is evil.”
Again, the student has no answer.
“Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?”
The student squirms on his feet. “Yes.”
“So who created them?”
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
“Who created them?” There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. “Tell me,” he continues onto another student. “Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?”
The student’s voice betrays him and cracks. “Yes, professor, I do.”
The old man stops pacing. “Science says you have five senses you use to
identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?”
“No sir. I’ve never seen Him.”
“Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus?”
“No, sir, I have not.”
“Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?”
“No, sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.”
“Yet you still believe in him?”
“Yes.”
“According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,
science says your God doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?”
“Nothing,” the student replies. “I only have my faith.”
“Yes, faith,” the professor repeats. “And that is the problem science has with God.
There is no evidence, only faith.”
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it all depends on how we define god. as ‘god’ is not material nor finite how can he help people physically?
if he is a creator [?] ~ well if existence needs to be created, it may be a continuum etc etc...
...but if god did create everything then he made us so we could help ourselves and each other, so we would have compassion etc.
the devil. god did not make the devil, he made existence in its primary forms, it is then a matter of choice how those forms change. if we did not have that change then there would be no contrasts by which we firstly define what is good and bad.
hence the devil represents a moving away form the higher aspects of mind ~ being that we may consider mind as individual, universal and infinite, as it has no perimeters ~ by choice!
by this i would think that the higher aspect is simplicity and the unbound nature of infinity, then by contrast, that evil is set in bondage. we could say that god is then an anarchist, the devil is those who seek to compartmentalise things/people and draw divisions.
for an example we may look at a mass murderer like ted bundy [i think this was him], throughout his youth he was raped and beaten by his family and people he knew, so he formed all sorts of barriers in his mind and a view that people were evil. he then chose to do unto others as they had done to him ~ which is why ‘eye for an eye’ doesnt work.
it nearly always comes down to a belief in us and them, blended with differentiating levels of worthiness and hierarchism. in contrast the unbounded mind will look for similarities, universal natures of things and will not want to replicate instance where this is clearly not evident i.e. 'evil'.
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Originally Posted by Chaigidel
