Machiavelli's works?

[Panzer_Sturmovik]

Well first post, but I have been looking through this forum for a long time now since I got RTW..

Now to the question

I have an essay [thesis really] for (extension history(HSC - Australia)) if someone could point me to the right direction on Machiavelli works principally 'The Prince' as I would like to research upon his writing and focusing upon his philosophy on how a prince would 'govern' a state? and how it has been received throughout history.

well I posted it here since this forum got ...erm.. higher class mentality....

thanks for reading this post but I would appreciate any comments on this (or to those who have knowledge of the HSC please comment if I am going the right direction)

[Exarch]

it's not that hard to find sucha faous work mate
and dont worry it aint a boring toe neither
it's actually quite short, like a little notebook=)
u'll be able to finish it in a day or so.
and dun worry it aint boring like the communist manifesto
that sucks arse
check ur local library
or find and online vresion via google

[Panzer_Sturmovik]

well would it be a good question to explore for my HSC paper 2,500 words all included even annotated bibliography and synopsis which I find quite low

[Da Skinna]

The Prince is no literally beauty, that's for sure. It reads more like a manual than anything else, but a definite thing to keep in mind is how Machiavelli's knowledge on whatever vision he caught of the human condition is exploited to its maximum. The Prince depicts love as being either useless, useful, or detrimental to the prince, as does as all emotions.

But I never read the whole thing, or any sizable chunk of it, and this is just what I understand right now. His other works, like Discourses on Livy he shows a keen knowledge of how a good republic works.

It's that pejorative use of his name that hangs over his legacy and works, that stigma that clouds what he turns out to be really good at, thinking of how government in relation to the people works...

Hope that helps.

[Panzer_Sturmovik]

The Prince is no literally beauty, that's for sure. It reads more like a manual than anything else, but a definite thing to keep in mind is how Machiavelli's knowledge on whatever vision he caught of the human condition is exploited to its maximum. The Prince depicts love as being either useless, useful, or detrimental to the prince, as does as all emotions.

But I never read the whole thing, or any sizable chunk of it, and this is just what I understand right now. His other works, like Discourses on Livy he shows a keen knowledge of how a good republic works.

It's that pejorative use of his name that hangs over his legacy and works, that stigma that clouds what he turns out to be really good at, thinking of how government in relation to the people works...

Hope that helps.

Well I get what it is you were saying but i would need a technical angle that would bring 'flair' in what I am suppose to be writing
Is it an interesting standpoint for me to approach it on how Machiavelli works like 'the prince' and the 'discourses on livy' (well from what I gathered a manual that is 'for' a princce that would be reigning over that era or is it safe for me to say that it brings and has been conveyed in modern political thoughts - don't shoot me here - but the likes of American presidents and I would like to insert out time person of the year V.Putin in my essay

[Maverick]

is it safe for me to say that it brings and has been conveyed in modern political thoughts - don't shoot me here

Yes and no. As the title suggests it's about Principalities and so some of the methods are dated but mostly it's about ruthless political opportunism - always relevent.

the likes of American presidents

You could draw some comparisons between the Bush family and the Borgia family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgia

I would like to insert out time person of the year V.Putin in my essay

Putin is definitely a Machiavellian political animal.

[Panzer_Sturmovik]

Yes and no. As the title suggests it's about Principalities and so some of the methods are dated but mostly it's about ruthless political opportunism - always relevent.



You could draw some comparisons between the Bush family and the Borgia family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgia



Putin is definitely a Machiavellian political animal.

Thank you that clears my mind any more suggestion on how I should go about it (like what resources should I get ...especially books...or just name authors Ill search for it... I got access to Maquarie uni library )

[Ummon]

You could draw some comparisons between the Bush family and the Borgia family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgia

That's a big compliment for Bush.

[Ummon]

The Prince is no literally beauty, that's for sure.

Have you read it in Italian?