Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

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    misfitsfiend138 said:

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    Just saw that movie and it was a lot better than the 1st aliens vs predator. more action, more killing, and some scenes in the movie are pretty hardcore but there was one bs moment though. anyone else see it?

     
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    Who wins?
     
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    the humans.

     
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    I thought it is out at January??
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by misfitsfiend138 View Post
    the humans.
    Not really, I think the entire town gets massacred and a few lucky bastards manage to escape.
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     
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    You can't win against Aliens or Predators, you can just survive till the next movie
     
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    ive heard that its on par with the first one due to poor acting and bad lighting.


    i think ill wait for the DVD.
     
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    so you guys have seen it, good i can start a discussion.
    i thought the whole ship was going to be on full-alert and all the predators were going to go gung-ho on destroying the pred-alien but i guess wrong .
    after that the part with hunter and his son was pretty intense. he shot the bloody face hugger then the acid got his arm and it melted through. then they actually let the kid get face-hugged and get his chest bursted.
    when that predator sent that distress signal i expected a whole hunting party to be sent (the home world looked so-so, i expected to be more advanced) but instead they sent one veteran to do it. the one art when he chased that state trooper and skinned him made no sense, why did he skin him? that one liquid the predator had, i thought he was never going run out if that stuff (it was kept in a lttle bottle and he used it like 10+ times), the part with the pool was crazy though.
    the pred-alien was crazy, i thought there was going to be a fight with it and a queen alien but it outdated the queen. at first with the pregnant diner lady i thought it was going to eat her baby then it went to the next scene and it showed her belly ripped i thought it did but when it went to the maternity ward in the hospital it friggen laid embryos via the mouth, into her womb and it spawned like 4 alien infants. the final battle between the predator and pred-alien was pretty intense. in the ending after they nuked the town i thought the 2 brothers and mother+daughter were going to get slaughtered by aliens that escaped but it was a team of SEALS that come to the rescue. the ending was cool, it showed wayland corporation and that one qoute the guy said left me to believe theres going to be another one.

    the action parts were cool, the predator had double shoulder blasters and it destroyed multiple xenomorphs with ease. the one battle in the sewer should have been a little longer.
    the aliens killing the people was pretty intense, it shows their second mouth actually going through heads and stuff.
    the actually ripped off many parts from the 1st predator movie, like the music and then the one legendary quote "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
    the only BS part was that the mother with the M4 never reloaded.

     
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    You know you don't have to describe every detail in a review.

    As expected, the second AvP outing was weak but at least somewhat entertaining due to the violent killing scenes between men, aliens and the predator though one realizes this has been done specifically to compensate for lack of everything else. The story is almost non-existant and the characters flat and uninteresting, one wonders why they have bothered.
    The rules that the classic movies had established so long ago are once again flushed down the toilet. I've gotten used to Aliens hatching and growing within a mere hour from the first one, but a Predalien that can lay parasites at will without any eggs or facehuggers and construct intricate alien architecture within hours, well that's a brand new kick in the nuts for any fan of the originals.
    The nods to the originals were cute to say the most but they didn't make the movie any better. The attempt at creating a male hero utterly failed as the person had about as much charisma as a soap opera actor and even worse lines. Even more silly seemed the inclusion of a Ripley-esque female hero, a woman who just had to run around in a shirt with her little daughter, relentlessly firing her M4. That's of course where the comparison ends, a woman firing a gun.
    The timeline was rushed of course, with the National Guard showing up within hours of some vague small town distress call and the Government appearantly deciding within minutes to simply nuke an american smalltown.
    The Predator portrayal is somewhat silly, with no one really understanding what he is trying to do. He seems to be the only one on the entire planet to receive video footage of the downed predator craft and at first appears to remove any evidence of alien activity. Why then he still chooses to skin and hang human "prey" remains a mystery such as why he still bothers when the Aliens are running around freely around town. Someone's been inconsistent.

    All in all a rather pathetic sequel. What it makes up for in gore, it looses in story and characters. Plus it takes another great dump on the established movies.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by misfitsfiend138 View Post
    so you guys have seen it, good i can start a discussion.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    i thought the whole ship was going to be on full-alert and all the predators were going to go gung-ho on destroying the pred-alien but i guess wrong .
    after that the part with hunter and his son was pretty intense. he shot the bloody face hugger then the acid got his arm and it melted through. then they actually let the kid get face-hugged and get his chest bursted.
    when that predator sent that distress signal i expected a whole hunting party to be sent (the home world looked so-so, i expected to be more advanced) but instead they sent one veteran to do it. the one art when he chased that state trooper and skinned him made no sense, why did he skin him? that one liquid the predator had, i thought he was never going run out if that stuff (it was kept in a lttle bottle and he used it like 10+ times), the part with the pool was crazy though.
    the pred-alien was crazy, i thought there was going to be a fight with it and a queen alien but it outdated the queen. at first with the pregnant diner lady i thought it was going to eat her baby then it went to the next scene and it showed her belly ripped i thought it did but when it went to the maternity ward in the hospital it friggen laid embryos via the mouth, into her womb and it spawned like 4 alien infants. the final battle between the predator and pred-alien was pretty intense. in the ending after they nuked the town i thought the 2 brothers and mother+daughter were going to get slaughtered by aliens that escaped but it was a team of SEALS that come to the rescue. the ending was cool, it showed wayland corporation and that one qoute the guy said left me to believe theres going to be another one.

    the action parts were cool, the predator had double shoulder blasters and it destroyed multiple xenomorphs with ease. the one battle in the sewer should have been a little longer.
    the aliens killing the people was pretty intense, it shows their second mouth actually going through heads and stuff.
    the actually ripped off many parts from the 1st predator movie, like the music and then the one legendary quote "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
    the only BS part was that the mother with the M4 never reloaded.
    FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST USE SPOILER TAGS.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     
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    This movie had two things wrong, the acting and lightning. The Staruse brothers may be excellent in the special effects field, but they they've shown to be very inexperienced directors as well. That's the main problem with the movie, the bad acting.

    The lightning could have been better in certain scennes, let's hope they improve it in the DVD/HD-DVD/B-R version of the movie.
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    Agreed with Rapax. Though if you're into some mindless violence you should still enjoy it.
    As for the part I most liked were the ones that showed the Predator in his own Ship and planet, really nice designs, another indication that this movie should have been in space and near future instead of modern day.
    Anyway I think even Alien 4 still blows this one with ease, and that was no more than a "good movie". At least it actually had some pretty badass characters.
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    i was setting up for a discussion, not a review. a lot of what you said was true, but it was above all entertaining. i didnt really notice that Ripley type hero, i figured it was the brothers that were the so called heroes.
    the one predator doing activities that are unnecessary was BS but who knows, it could set up another predator search party and a 3rd movie which involves wayland corp.

    i would like to see a scene to see a "predator" socializing, etc. in its natural habitat.

     
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    Well, review or not, it seemed like a lot of details to tell your opinion.
    I mean sure, the movie was entertaining in a mindless sort of way, it's not like you have to care much when people are sliced and impaled but the rest just seemed so lazy. The movie is b-quality at best, something that would normally go straight to DVD. In fact, the only actor I actually recognized was the Sheriff which was played by the drug cartel guy in Miami Vice who got blown away by a grenade launcher in the end. He had to play a total idiot though.

    As for the Heroes, that was another weak point of the movie. It's like it couldn't decide who to take. We get a younger brother with the usual vomit inducing storyline of being the sweet loser who likes the hot blonde but gets beat up by her ******* boyfriend. The sweet blonde of course being a total slut who wants to bang him the same day she dumps her model lover. Then his older brother who comes back to his hometown after a long time and apparently was some sort of small time criminal in his glory ideas. The great thing is that he consistently has better ideas than the sheriff about how to "deal with the situation".
    The Ripley imitate is a Helicopter pilot from the 101st just coming home from the front and the movie needlessly provides a seperation issue between her and her daughter before she's thrown into her ripley role, running around in a shirt and gunning down Aliens.

    Anyway, what bothers me the most is the alien spamming. Whereas "Aliens" has created a reasonable backstory for the hundreds of aliens existing, every one of these AvP movies can't be bothered to provide good reason or backstory for the existence of dozens of aliens to kill for the humans and predators. They don't care how ridiculous their ideas are or how much they break with the established logic from the franchise. They just make **** up so to say and that takes away suspense.
    i would like to see a scene to see a "predator" socializing, etc. in its natural habitat.
    Like a predator having sex?
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    Well, review or not, it seemed like a lot of details to tell your opinion.
    I mean sure, the movie was entertaining in a mindless sort of way, it's not like you have to care much when people are sliced and impaled but the rest just seemed so lazy. The movie is b-quality at best, something that would normally go straight to DVD. In fact, the only actor I actually recognized was the Sheriff which was played by the drug cartel guy in Miami Vice who got blown away by a grenade launcher in the end. He had to play a total idiot though.

    As for the Heroes, that was another weak point of the movie. It's like it couldn't decide who to take. We get a younger brother with the usual vomit inducing storyline of being the sweet loser who likes the hot blonde but gets beat up by her ******* boyfriend. The sweet blonde of course being a total slut who wants to bang him the same day she dumps her model lover. Then his older brother who comes back to his hometown after a long time and apparently was some sort of small time criminal in his glory ideas. The great thing is that he consistently has better ideas than the sheriff about how to "deal with the situation".
    The Ripley imitate is a Helicopter pilot from the 101st just coming home from the front and the movie needlessly provides a seperation issue between her and her daughter before she's thrown into her ripley role, running around in a shirt and gunning down Aliens.

    Anyway, what bothers me the most is the alien spamming. Whereas "Aliens" has created a reasonable backstory for the hundreds of aliens existing, every one of these AvP movies can't be bothered to provide good reason or backstory for the existence of dozens of aliens to kill for the humans and predators. They don't care how ridiculous their ideas are or how much they break with the established logic from the franchise. They just make **** up so to say and that takes away suspense.

    Like a predator having sex?
    OH GOD NO!!!! i meant like talking in conversations,etc. you know, socializing.

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    That would be fun, Predators hissing and grunting at each other.
     
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    Realize that it's been a while but I was dragged to see this movie by two drunk friends yesterday.

    I think it might actually be the worst movie I have seen in over ten years. And I usually enjoy horror and splatter movies. It is such a mind-bogglingly bad example of script - and directorship that I actually became angry when seeing it over what a waste that thing was of digital space. The only positive thing I can say about it - and no, the effects were not especially good (rubber and plastic fantastic with semi-good CGI in half-darkness do not, in this day and age, cut it) - was that the directors apparently had understood that they were so incompetent that they were incapable of making the movie actually frightening, so they just went straight for the Gross-Out (sic Stephen King's credo) - and that is a compliment to their self-understanding rather than movie-making skills.

    I had to purge my body with alcohol for over eight hours to avoid the aftereffects and even now my eyes hurt from seeing that crap. Talk about taking gang-raping of both the Alien and Predator concepts to a whole new level.
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  19. Exarch said:

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    OMG
    i cannot believe i just wasted $11 to see this crap!!
    things were alreayd going downhill at the start when the bullyboy beats up the kid for no good reason (i mean c'mon,that doesnt happen in real life!)
    and then the cliche female soldier who served about as much part in the movie as to satisfy some feminist lobbyist in hollywood.
    i swear to god, i almost felt like walking out when i saw the maternity ward scene.
    i mean c'mon, they just crossed limits and broke boundaries for some cheap attempt to get butts in seats! it was disgusting and i mean they jsut screwed up a really good franchise
    they could've made this film work, rather than letting it become a piece of **** that it is today
    huh, guess that's what happens when screenwriters go on strike eh?
     
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    What surprised me about this film was that they killed a kid at the begining and then hinted at the death of a whole ward of new borns. And also the killing of pregant women. I've never seen a film do this as it tends to offend the sensibilty of the audience. We do not like to see children being hurt let alone slaughtered. I would recommend to everyone, wait for it to come out on DVD don't waste the money on movie tickets.