Quick question

[Emperor Tom]

:hmmm:Who are the actual strongest tribe of the natives in kingdoms? Is it the Aztecs? Or...

(put in order from strongest to weakest if ya could)

[Insurgent]

It depends what you mean by 'strong'.

The Apache have the strongest military of the lot, however their towns have no walls or defences and they only start with 1 town.

The Aztecs and Mayans have an OK military, but it is much less powerful and versatile as the Apache's, the Aztecs and Mayans do however start with quite a few towns which are well defended too with a nice big wall to protect them.

The Tlaxcalans and Tarascans are similar to the Aztecs and Mayans except with less territories, so they're inferior to the Aztecs and Mayans.

I liked the Chichimeca best since they have both the Strong military of the Apache and the well defended settlements of the Mesoamericans. They only start with two towns, however they are in a decent position to strike out at nearby rebel settlements and build an Empire ready to grind the other tribes into the earth!

Strongest to weakest in Military terms-

Apache-Chichimeca-Maya/Aztec/Tlaxcalans/Tarascans.

Strongest to weakest in settlements-

Aztec-Mayans-Chichimeca-Tarascans-Tlaxcalans-Apache.

Hope this helps...

[Ged]

I agree with the above (maybe take the Mayans off top spot in military terms though.)

[Wolfo147]

Although the Apache have the weakest settlements, you're not going to be bothered by anyone for a good 20 turns most of the time. The Apache have a HUGE buffer between them and all of the other tribes. This gives you time to dominate nearly all of North America before moving down into Central America to confront the other tribes, and by that point your military should be massive.

Because of htis huge territorial buffer I would say that Apache settlements aren't as weak as you'd think, merely because the settlements are so far away from all the other factions.

[Salahiddin Ayoubi]

The Maya, Aztec, Tarascans, and Tlaxcalans have nearly the exact same unit roster, with a couple of names switched out, I think CA got a tad lazy with that part

[Emperor Tom]

Ya I guess Apaches are the coolest just because those are the mainstreme Indians you see in those wild western movies. I'm more accustome to them so I can play a battle better with them. The Aztecs wear weird things that I can't stand just for the fact that I they distract me and I get lost and have to end the fight because I can't command with those damn paddles they have coming off their backs that look like faces. Plus they are poorly done to begin with so it makes battles go from easy to very hard fast for me.

[JonR]

The Aztecs, Mayans, Tlaxcallans and Tarascans have the strongest melee units, but they have no decent archers.

The Apaches are weak in melee, but they have the best archers. Their units have incredibly low upkeep so it's easy to field multiple stacks without killing your economy.
Add to that that they can capture gunpowder and cavalry units and then field them themselves, and you'll realise that the Apaches are the best you're going to get.

The chicimecs are weird. They don't have the low upkeep of Apachean units, but the same kind of soldiers. (who happen to be weak in melee)
This makes them hard, and requires you to rely on good tactics and strategy even more.
They can capture horses and gunpowder aswell, but you start at a location far away from where the europeans land.

[Emperor Tom]

So you're telling me I have to defeat the French to get gunpowder? I'm only on turn 32 anways. I made an Alliance with them but they neighbor me. For some reason I get the feeling that may have be a bad thing. I'm also allied to Tarascans, Mayans, and that one faction you just mentioned who is just like the Apaches for the most part. Spain is far way so their out of the picture. Unless...do the English ever show up in this game? And how can I get the Apache scouts recruitable?:hmmm: