Atheism described in one picture

[Dismounted H@Xx0rZ]

Though I can understand why you would choose not to believe.

[boofhead]

H@Xx0rZ;2492050]

Though I can understand why you would choose not to believe.

For once you make me laugh, my underaged friend

[Dismounted H@Xx0rZ]

For once you make me laugh, my underaged friend

???

When in truth we are very much more likely to say 'We don't know what happened. But we're working on it"

But we can't scientifically prove what happened. And there's no way to replicate the event. So is it so wrong of me to assume the Supernatural?

[boofhead]

???

It was a reference to you calling me a pedophile for being an older member of the forum, a long time ago, which of course we have both forgotten like water under the bridge

[Sidmen]

Meh, better than replacing every "nothing" with "magical being"

When in truth we are very much more likely to say 'We don't know what happened. But we're working on it"

[The Good]

For once you make me laugh, my underaged friend

Dismounted H@Xx0rZ is actually eighteen, not really underaged. Funny picture though. Although about 90% of the people in Total War Center would dissagree, thats actually a lot like atheism there, especially with the theory of evolution in mind.

One thing that most atheists and all Christians agree on though; the Universe had a begining. It had to have a begining, otherwise, what is now, wouldn't be. The dispute though is how the Universe began specifically.

[Dismounted H@Xx0rZ]

Dismounted H@Xx0rZ is actually eighteen, not really underaged. Funny picture though. Although about 90% of the people in Total War Center would dissagree, thats actually a lot like atheism there, especially with the theory of evolution in mind.

One thing that most atheists and all Christians agree on though; the Universe had a begining.

But when was this beginning? Did this beginning occur when our current universe began? Or did it start much farther back? Are we caught in nothing more than a repeating cycle? When did this cycle begin? Did it begin? How do we even know what we perceive to be true actually is true when it could be nothing more than a deception made by our senses to fool u-uuuuss-ssus

:Reboot:

Oops, sorry, my mind crashed. I get confused easily.

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

One thing that most atheists and all Christians agree on though; the Universe had a begining. It had to have a begining, otherwise, what is now, wouldn't be. The dispute though is how the Universe began specifically.

Yes, the universe did have a beginning. However, God, too must have had a beginning and since all religious texts fail to establish that, atheism provides more conclusive answers in this case. Non-belief is more logical than belief.

Put this on a picture:

The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then God magically appeared for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything was magically rearranged with the help of fairies and angels for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.

Makes sense?

My Mother had been diagnosed with this disease since childhood. She frequented the Doctor's office very often, even visiting different doctors. Then there was this one time, where she did her routine visits, the Doctor told her that she had no trace of ever having Lupus Erythematosus, all of the other doctors she has been to said the same, that she appeared to have no trace of ever having the disease. From that time, 'till now, she had no symptoms of Lupus Erythematosus.

And similarly, patients were prayed for by friends and Masses alike from the entire world while others were not prayed for at all in an experiment. Guess what? There was no difference in their recovery. This was called the "Great Prayer Experiment" and if you Google it, you'd see how hard Christian groups try to refute.

Then, listen to this! I was watching a news report, it was telling a report of a plane crashing, and how everything burned and blew apart, except for one item, a Bible. A Christian Bible, of all possible things in that plane. All of the other books on the plane had burnt to a crisp. This story may also come across as absurd, but the news actually did a story on this. This event, although not relating to my life, was, I though, amazing.

Which version would this be? The King James version or the other Roman Catholic bible? Anyway, do you want to hear stories in which the Quran, a book of the moon-worshiping pagan infidels, was saved in similar ways? Or perhaps the Gita? It's funny how God saved one book and killed all those people, though. A perverted deity, he is.

[Earl of Rochester]

Let's not jump to hasty conclusions that the universe had a beginning...

[Irishman]

you realize that these same people mock Christianity etc. with similar little bits.

Overall, its a load of crap, and not what most atheists believe. Though nihilists and solipsists like myself tend to agree with some of it.

I will not post this on this site (I dont want to offend) but this is the Christian one: Here

In fact, the beginning of the whole thing isn't even a real representation of what scientists believe. They dont believe there was ever "Nothing". Overall, the Christian one does a better spoof, because most of the beliefs in this one you posted are just dead wrong.

Also, may I point out that Atheism only means NOT believing in God, and does not entail ANY scientific belief.

[Sidmen]

So is it so wrong of me to assume the Supernatural?

When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME. Seriously, assumptions are the cheap way out, just admit that you have no friggen Idea.

But we can't scientifically prove what happened. And there's no way to replicate the event.

Not right now, but I believe that we'll be able to eventually.

After all, my alien video game theory has as much proof as any other religion. And actually explains allot more than some religions.

[The Good]

Dismounted, thats why I said it is a disputed topic.

I believe in what the Book of Genesis says of Creation, which 90% here disagree with.

[Irishman]

I believe in what the Book of Genesis says of Creation, which 90% here disagree with.

Just real quick (while the thread is on the subject), why?

[The Good]

Just real quick (while the thread is on the subject), why?

Uh, Irishman, remember that recent poll on Intelligent Design versus Evolution? I took the statistics from that poll.

[Irishman]

NO (should have been more clear).

I know the majority disagrees with you, in fact, you probably get a lot of crap for it, I just want to know why you chose to believe that.

I know (from previous threads) that you value your faith, but I have also seen you describe yourself as a "rational" person, and I cannot see the reason in believing a 2000+ year old creation myth.

I get the faith part, but it doesn't seem this is needed, and it seems like a very specific (and easily debunked) view for a rationalist to hold.

[The Good]

NO (should have been more clear).

I know the majority disagrees with you, in fact, you probably get a lot of crap for it, I just want to know why you chose to believe that.

I know (from previous threads) that you value your faith, but I have also seen you describe yourself as a "rational" person, and I cannot see the reason in believing a 2000+ year old creation myth.

I get the faith part, but it doesn't seem this is needed, and it seems like a very specific (and easily debunked) view for a rationalist to hold.

I know you won't understand this much, but if you must know my reason other than just purely faith, for believing the Biblical view of Creation, it is because that I know the Lord. I have witnessed too many miracles in my lifetime to deny my Father. For instance, one of these miracles, and I've written this before, is that my Mother had a disease/illness, called Lupus Erythematosus. It is a disease with no known cure.

Look at the Wikipedia article for more information on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_erythematosus

My Mother had been diagnosed with this disease since childhood. She frequented the Doctor's office very often, even visiting different doctors. Then there was this one time, where she did her routine visits, the Doctor told her that she had no trace of ever having Lupus Erythematosus, all of the other doctors she has been to said the same, that she appeared to have no trace of ever having the disease. From that time, 'till now, she had no symptoms of Lupus Erythematosus.

I'm serious about this, Irishman. I'm not making this up as a story, all of these events have happened to my Mother. This is why I believe that she was miraculously cured of Lupus.


Then, listen to this! I was watching a news report, it was telling a report of a plane crashing, and how everything burned and blew apart, except for one item, a Bible. A Christian Bible, of all possible things in that plane. All of the other books on the plane had burnt to a crisp. This story may also come across as absurd, but the news actually did a story on this. This event, although not relating to my life, was, I though, amazing.

A similar story to this, is that there was once a huge wildfire in Southern California, this man was out of his hometown, he had a house there, as well as a fax machine inside his house. After staying at a relatives house, he immediately starting faxing a paper to his house. The fax read "God protect this house," or something along those lines. His house, out of possibly hundreds of others in the area, was intact after the fires, still standing, not burnt. This story is too great to have been a coincidence.

It is often said by Christians, that in a believer's life, there are no coincidences, and over the years, I've found this to be true.

[Sadreddine]

I have witnessed too many miracles in my lifetime to deny my Father.

Be careful with what you say, or you may have millions of people in a few generations stating that you were indeed the Son of God (you might even be called God Himself at the same time, curiously enough).

Uh sorry, I couldn't resist...

Now respect to your belief of the Genesis being absolute truth, that really amounts to a lot of faith. I'm glad about the story of your mother, though. you really have a reason to be grateful.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

I know you won't understand this much, but if you must know my reason other than just purely faith, for believing the Biblical view of Creation, it is because that I know the Lord. I have witnessed too many miracles in my lifetime to deny my Father. For instance, one of these miracles, and I've written this before, is that my Mother had a disease/illness, called Lupus Erythematosus. It is a disease with no known cure.

Look at the Wikipedia article for more information on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus_erythematosus

My Mother had been diagnosed with this disease since childhood. She frequented the Doctor's office very often, even visiting different doctors. Then there was this one time, where she did her routine visits, the Doctor told her that she had no trace of ever having Lupus Erythematosus, all of the other doctors she has been to said the same, that she appeared to have no trace of ever having the disease. From that time, 'till now, she had no symptoms of Lupus Erythematosus.

Or the body may have healed itself, by what means we're likely not certain, but just because we can't explain it doesn't mean God did it.

Then, listen to this! I was watching a news report, it was telling a report of a plane crashing, and how everything burned and blew apart, except for one item, a Bible. A Christian Bible, of all possible things in that plane. All of the other books on the plane had burnt to a crisp. This story may also come across as absurd, but the news actually did a story on this. This event, although not relating to my life, was, I though, amazing.

You know, I might try to take a cardboard box full of books, one being the Bible, and set it in a fire. I'll come back to that fire in five minutes and see if the Bible is unblemished.

A similar story to this, is that there was once a huge wildfire in Southern California, this man was out of his hometown, he had a house there, as well as a fax machine inside his house. After staying at a relatives house, he immediately starting faxing a paper to his house. The fax read "God protect this house," or something along those lines. His house, out of possibly hundreds of others in the area, was intact after the fires, still standing, not burnt. This story is too great to have been a coincidence.

How is it too great to have been a coincidence? If the man really had faith in God, he would have sent a fax saying, "God protect this country/state/city/neighborhood"

It is often said by Christians, that in a believer's life, there are no coincidences, and over the years, I've found this to be true.

They are only miracles because you want them to be so. I would love to be a person of faith but my rationality refuses to let that happen. After I read a lot of the Qu'ran, for instance, I wanted to become a Muslim. However, saying...

"[ʾAshadu ʾan] la ilaha illa-llah, wa [ʾashadu ʾanna] muḥammadan rasulu-llah

I testify that there is no god but God, and I testify Muhammad is the messenger of God.

...would be a lie.

[Sadreddine]

After I read a lot of the Qu'ran, for instance, I wanted to become a Muslim. However, saying...

...would be a lie.

Not meant to discuss anything, just out of curiosity, but...why would that declaration be a lie?

[Tom Paine]

Not meant to discuss anything, just out of curiosity, but...why would that declaration be a lie?

Presumably because, whilst he does not believe it, he does not feel he can testify it. Just a thought.