The New Map

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 18, 2007, 08:20 AM

I would like to know the extension of the new map ,anyone know ?

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 09:31 AM

Look for Cumans and Khwarezm on the wiki. We will have their territories.

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 18, 2007, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by delra

Look for Cumans and Khwarezm on the wiki. We will have their territories.

ok,thank you !

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 09:53 AM

Well, at least western half of those territories.

Look for the preview threads of both factions, there's even written which exactly cities they are getting. :-)

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 18, 2007, 10:02 AM

like this,right?

**Baldwin of Jerusalem** · December 18, 2007, 10:16 AM

Thats quite nice but it could do with a little shaving off in the North and the South. Probably the East as well. It only needs to go just past the Caspian sea.

**hellfire15** · December 18, 2007, 10:18 AM

some more and we can put in the Mongols in the early campaign!

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 18, 2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Baldwin of Jerusalem

Thats quite nice but it could do with a little shaving off in the North and the South. Probably the East as well. It only needs to go just past the Caspian sea.

et voilà

**Quark** · December 18, 2007, 11:51 AM

Quinctilius Varus
I suspect that the problem KK faces is what to do with the Northern Steppes. Idealy IMO he would take the map to at least the Aral Sea and Urgench, maybe as far as Samakand, but what to do with that vast empty North:hmmm:. By taking out the Americas and the Atlantic, you have quiet a bit of room to increase with, but with the emptiness of Russia in this period he chose to make regions bigger. That might have been a better choice if the Ai would react to your armies, but as it is its a tough call.

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 18, 2007, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Quark

Quinctilius Varus
I suspect that the problem KK faces is what to do with the Northern Steppes. Idealy IMO he would take the map to at least the Aral Sea and Urgench, maybe as far as Samakand, but what to do with that vast empty North:hmmm:. By taking out the Americas and the Atlantic, you have quiet a bit of room to increase with, but with the emptiness of Russia in this period he chose to make regions bigger. That might have been a better choice if the Ai would react to your armies, but as it is its a tough call.

Maybe he can cancel Siberia and add India

.Actually the North of the Russia is not a good land to conquer.

**nosjo78** · December 18, 2007, 12:53 PM

The 1 settlement idea is nice. Is their a way to GREATLY increase walking distance per turn in that region though? I would absolutly hate to have to walk that.

**Baldwin of Jerusalem** · December 18, 2007, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Quinctilius Varus

et voilà

Very good Quintilius! Id drop a little south though. Just enough to include all of the Sinai peninsula. In the east, I'd draw a vertical line through the Arral sea for the border.

**Quinctilius Varus** · December 19, 2007, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Baldwin of Jerusalem

Very good Quintilius! Id drop a little south though. Just enough to include all of the Sinai peninsula. In the east, I'd draw a vertical line through the Arral sea for the border.

hey! it's not a map for medieval is just a picture

**Baldwin of Jerusalem** · December 19, 2007, 11:07 AM

I know but its the nearest we've got at the moment!

About that large area to the north east of the map: I think that it could justifyably be given to the Cumans in the early period and certainly to the Mongols in the middle or late. Actually though, there was a mod for RTR that made it one large unconquerable province which you could still pass through and hire mercenaries in.

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 11:23 AM

What's also important, there's no more Americas in 6.0.

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 11:59 AM

How about a huge nothing. One rebel settlement to control all the steppes. Can call it "steppes"...

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 01:10 PM

I remember Sahara in Europa Barbarorum (RTW mod in case someone didn't hear about it). It was one settlement in the corner of the map, unreachable for factions, always rebel. Well, we could do the same to the steppes if we're desperate.

The other idea is to place thousands of little villages around it making it the size of Europe but VERY underdeveloped. Maybe even give them to Mongols or something.

I'd go for the first option.

**zznɟ ǝɥʇ** · December 18, 2007, 01:11 PM

Or you could just make it uncapturable, but crossable....if your armies can last across a land that vast.

Edit; beat me!^

**delra** · December 18, 2007, 07:22 PM

I really can't wait for it. Changes to the map were what brought me to this mod in the first place. :-)

**Inhuman One** · December 19, 2007, 04:25 PM

hm I am not really exited about this expansion, the north east is already a boring part of land thats keeping me from playing the russian factions, I am not waiting for more of this dull enviroment that allows no strategic points at all with mountains, a lot of water or anything like that.