grapeshot

**suntaiguy23** · December 16, 2007, 09:20 PM

i just realised grapeshot was never implimented,into SS how would i do it myself for the bombard?

**Landwalker** · December 16, 2007, 09:32 PM

Well, I imagine grapeshot was never implemented in SS bombards for two reasons:

1) Grapeshot itself did not, to my knowledge, exist in the Medieval period, hence the existence of things like ribaults.
2) Bombards are explicitly anti-structure cannons. Putting grapeshot in them would be like putting grapeshot in a howitzer. If anything in SS should have a grapeshot option (assuming its existence, of course), it would be the serpentine.

Cheers.

Edit: That said, I have no idea how one would implement it anyway. Most/all siege weapons toggle between regular and flaming shot, and a unit can only have one "special ability".

**mailor** · December 17, 2007, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Edit: That said, I have no idea how one would implement it anyway. Most/all siege weapons toggle between regular and flaming shot, and a unit can only have one "special ability".

Can't a trebuchet fire standard, flaming shot and a rotting cow carcass?

**echo_1** · December 17, 2007, 12:17 AM

Err... 'only one special ability' - what about trebuchets?

Update: oops, somebody already said while I was reading other threads.

**Chim** · December 17, 2007, 12:11 AM

Yes indeed it can.
But what is a grapeshot exactly?

**DrunkNIrishMan** · December 17, 2007, 12:27 AM

Grapeshot is a bunch of small metal balls (think grapes) stuffed into a canister that the cannon then fires, which explodes and sends the balls out, much like a shotgun. They are devastating short-range anti-infantry tools. First I remember hearing of them is the Revolutionary War, but being American, I'm sure they were used in Europe before then.

**Chim** · December 17, 2007, 12:32 AM

Alright,
Thank you for the info!
I picture this as something like the oil barrels of the mangonel?

**suntaiguy23** · December 17, 2007, 01:17 AM

the grapeshot is a 3rd special for the regular bombard u can use in the crusades caimpaign it had ony a few shots but was devastating against enemy troops, it had a seperate ammunition from the regular and flaming shot
i've used it a few times to great effect in my byzantine caimbaign when kingdoms first came out