Templars vs. KOJ

[strife1013]

I'm looking to start a game as either the KOJ or the Knights Templars, however I'm kinda at a cross road as to which one to play with. Any ideas?

[delra]

Try both?

I like Templars more cause I like early campaign more.

[Fenix_120]

In a nut shell, the Templars get slightly better units overall but the KOJ has better specialized units and a much better starting position.


The Teutonic order is better than both however, in both unique and specialized units as well as most of their stats.

They also have a much better starting position, with both more land and more income and they have easier allies(the HRE and Poland are both more willing to help and much closer to the Teutonic order than the Byzantines are to the Templars/KOJ) and their early enemies are much weaker (Novengrod may be a problem, but Luthalania can be conquered easy early, the Templars have to deal with the Turks and Egypt which both start out strong and the KOj can add the Mongols to that list)

Its true the Teutonic order will have to face the Mongols eventually but by the time the Mongols make their way to Germany, you should have access to the Teutonic plate-armored spear men and the dismounted Knights armed with halberds both of which backed up by some calvary for chasing horse archers and stopping bodyguards will totally destroy the Mongols.

[strife1013]

In a nut shell, the Templars get slightly better units overall but the KOJ has better specialized units and a much better starting position.


The Teutonic order is better than both however, in both unique and specialized units as well as most of their stats.

They also have a much better starting position, with both more land and more income and they have easier allies(the HRE and Poland are both more willing to help and much closer to the Teutonic order than the Byzantines are to the Templars/KOJ) and their early enemies are much weaker (Novengrod may be a problem, but Luthalania can be conquered easy early, the Templars have to deal with the Turks and Egypt which both start out strong and the KOj can add the Mongols to that list)

Its true the Teutonic order will have to face the Mongols eventually but by the time the Mongols make their way to Germany, you should have access to the Teutonic plate-armored spear men and the dismounted Knights armed with halberds both of which backed up by some calvary for chasing horse archers and stopping bodyguards will totally destroy the Mongols.

With the Teutonic Order can they build cities larger than stone wall size? I ask this because in Kingdoms you cant dont know if KK changed that or not.

[Inhuman One]

the teutonic order seems irrelevant in this comparisson between the templars and the kingdom of Jerusalem though.

I personly prefer the kingdom of Jerusalem since they seem to have quite a few templar units either way and the templar faction doesnt have jerusalem units.