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    Default Gay Witch-hunt in Cameroon, with the Church a firm supporter

    Cameroon's political and business elites have been rocked by a campaign by tabloid newspapers to "out" top personalities they say are homosexual.

    The newspaper editors say they are exposing people who engage in "deviant behaviour". Some 50 people have been named and the papers have sold out.

    Homosexual acts are banned in Cameroon, with up to five years in jail.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4685298.stm

    as we know from the past, this is not exactly a grass-roots thing only:

    Nigeria's Obasanjo praises the Roman Catholic Church for its 'firm stand' on homosexuality (2004):

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3955145.stm

    I don't think those two things have NOTHING to do with each other... :hmmm:

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    Score 137 for God. Like 3 for progressive humanity.
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    Wow. This is great. Because Jesus, totally like, commanded us to kill those who don't believe the same things you believed.










    Last edited by Thanatos; December 06, 2007 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Wow. This is great. Because Jesus, totally like, commanded us to kill those who don't believe the same things you believed.
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    Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Wow. This is great. Because Jesus, totally like, commanded us to kill those who don't believe the same things you believed.
    I thought the Bible says gays must be put to death, no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    I thought the Bible says gays must be put to death, no?
    Bible does say it (Old testament). Jesus didn't (New Testament).

    Please, don't assume all Christians take every single bit of the bible literally, and unquestioningly. Such assumption is both ignorant and inaccurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    I thought the Bible says gays must be put to death, no?
    Yes, under Jesus, we have a new covenant.

    While we are to still not tolerate gays, we are not to hate them, but the acts they do.

    To this end, we are to no longer persecute them, for none of us are blameless in order to throw the first stone.

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    Same is happening and has been for a while in Uganda, and across Africa really. Its really depressing to note the malign influence the Church and media are exercising when they have the power to do so much good, potentially...

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    Default Re: Gay Witch-hunt in Cameroon, with the Church a firm supporter

    Organized religion tends to do that unfortunately.

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    And all you've done is quote one of Jesus' parables out of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    And all you've done is quote one of Jesus' parables out of context.
    love how when people get pwned they automatically pull out the "out of context" card.

    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos
    While we are to still not tolerate gays, we are not to hate them, but the acts they do.
    So, dont hate them, just let them know that what they stand for is wrong and to give them the cold shoulder at parties and family gatherings.

    i guess that makes you feel better if you word it differently.

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    Gay witches aren't nearly as bad as communist werewolves or athiest vampires.
    or the always dangerous metrosexual zombies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idwayreth View Post
    love how when people get pwned they automatically pull out the "out of context" card.
    No, Thanatos is completely right in that case, Jesus is essentially relaying the lines of some noble to his retainers, if I recall correctly.

    This is the entire parable:

    The Parable of the Ten Minas

    11While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a]'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.' 14"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'
    15"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
    16"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'
    17" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'
    18"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'
    19"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'
    20"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'
    22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'
    24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'
    25" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'
    26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

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    Default Re: Gay Witch-hunt in Cameroon, with the Church a firm supporter

    I agree with Thanatos there. That is a direct misquote. Technically Jesus is supposed to say it, but it's not him in the story he's telling.

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    Gay witches are a major burden on Cameroon's economy, so I can understand some of the public's anti-gay witch sentiment in that country.
    Last edited by Richard; December 08, 2007 at 06:30 AM.

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    Gay witches aren't nearly as bad as communist werewolves or athiest vampires.
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    Yes, that parable is referring most likely to the Day of Judgment. God is not there commanding us to do His dirty work, but outlining what ultimately awaits those who sin and reject God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith Darksea View Post
    Yes, that parable is referring most likely to the Day of Judgment. God is not there commanding us to do His dirty work, but outlining what ultimately awaits those who sin and reject God.
    Which still is a "negative" message, but Jesus certainly was not telling people to kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith Darksea View Post
    Yes, that parable is referring most likely to the Day of Judgment. God is not there commanding us to do His dirty work, but outlining what ultimately awaits those who sin and reject God.
    oooo Watch out do what I say or else! Sounds like an angry God full of the emotional projections and wishes of his followers.
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    Cameroon also being a supporter of breast ironing, this comes as no surprise to me.
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    Default Re: Gay Witch-hunt in Cameroon, with the Church a firm supporter

    If a tyrant tries to link himself with the Catholic Church's stance, his measures are his own nonetheless. In any case, it would be good if the Catholic Church didn't allow such acts to continue under silence, or with silent approval.

    People should not be discriminated for their sexual tendencies, of course.

    I would say that obviously, the link between the two appears weak from those sources.
    Last edited by Ummon; December 07, 2007 at 10:59 AM.

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