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    "It is impossible for capitalism to survive, primarily because the system of capitalism needs some blood to suck. Capitalism used to be like an eagle, but now it's more like a vulture. It used to be strong enough to go and suck anybody's blood whether they were strong or not. But now it has become more cowardly, like the vulture, and it can only suck the blood of the helpless. As the nations of the world free themselves, the capitalism has less victims, less to suck, and it becomes weaker and weaker. It's only a matter of time in my opinion before it will collapse completely."
    Malcolm X


    I think it is very true statement
    Malcolm made.It even explains our history if you think of it with logic.

    So what do you all think of this quote ?

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    The quote is pretty typical of Malcolm X; it is spiteful and even hateful of the culture he percieved himself to be a victim of without regard for any accuracy.

    It's a fun read though.
    The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
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    He seems to be mixing capitalism up with colonialism (and neo-colonialism). Malcolm was a good orator, organiser and leader, but I don't rate him as an economist or political theorist.

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    The main difference between capitalism and socialism is that the former is focused on the creation of wealth while the latter on its distribution. It doesn't take a lot of logic to figure out that there's nothing to distribute when no wealth is being created, hence the failure of the Eastern Bloc and the comparatively slow growth rates of western Europe. The one (very, very important) advantage of capitalism is how fluid and adaptable it is to a variety of circumstances, and how much innovation it creates through efficient distribution of incentives.





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    Default Re: "Malcolm X quote"

    "I dunno Malcolm, capitalism seems to be doing pretty damn good lately. Look at China. Who'd 'a thunk it?"

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    Default Re: "Malcolm X quote"

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    "I dunno Malcolm, capitalism seems to be doing pretty damn good lately. Look at China. Who'd 'a thunk it?"
    Yes now Communist China is heading to the right path in my perspective of the world currently.Yes China is over populated,but look at the economy and the worlds dependence on it.

    In my opinion there needs to be a new improved system a new one that evolutionizes the Greek system and modern democracy.
    Last edited by republic_bohemia; December 05, 2007 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by republic_bohemia View Post
    Yes now Communist China is heading to the right path in my perspective of the world currently.Yes China is over populated,but look at the economy and the worlds dependence on it.

    In my opinion there needs to be a new improved system a new one that evolutionizes the Greek system and modern democracy.
    please tell me you arent using china as a model for countries to become successful........


    also fun fact kiddos!

    Capitalism =/= Consumerism


    The current idea of what capitalism is was defined by corporations using edward bernays and others using the same techniques to commercialize society effectively sating "irrational" behaviors with consumer goods as they saw the average joe as incompetent and unable to make a rational decision. In bernays words "scientific manipulation of public opinion was necessary to overcome chaos and conflict in society." This was in opposition to FDR's policies towards breaking monopolized corporations instead putting more power in the peoples hands and having policy created for the good of the state to provide for all. Its funny how similar the FDR's and hitlers policies on social growth, except one wanted more power in the peoples hands to be used for the common good, where the other thought strict state control was better, that and one like massacring civilians......

    Malcolm X and so many other black americans from the 60's-70's all have the same flaw, that is they are all too driven and blinded by hate. They love the power that their hate gives them because without it they would have felt that they had nothing at all. King was successful because he was able to peacefully make his point and would participate in a reasoned discussion of issues, rather than the malcolm x style that blamed whitey for everything and failed to recognize that even whites arent all at the top of the food chain, or that whites can understand what social inequality is. Al sharpton and rev. jackson are the biggest rascists in the US today, and they are actually driving people apart than trying to bring them together.

    another fun fact:

    marxism and subsequent theories dont work on a mass scale for society.

    the majority of opinions on communism, capitalism, and socialism etc are so warped that it just boggles the mind at the hate behind it all.

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    When Malcolm shows me his ms or phd in economics i'll care. Oh wait he's dead
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Wow, way to hit him when he's down. You gonna say that to Martin Luther King, too?

    Anyway, Malcolm X is quite a biased judge. I can find a multitude of anti-US quotes worse than this.

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    No, I think MLK actually had good intensions. Despite his personnal troubles the message he promoted was a positive one. This douche was as nutty as the rest of the nation of islam members.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Biggest difference between Malcolm X and MLK. MLK was killed by someone who was white. Malcolm X was killed by members of his own group, the Nation of Islam. Malcolm X is one of the biggest frauds of the 20th century. My school even has a building called the Malcolm X Institute which is devoted to black studies. Why they couldn't pick MLK to name the building is beyond me.

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    Malcolm X was killed by the Nation of Islam because he denounced the Nation of Islam.

    I'm not sure why we're having this discussion. I condemned JP for saying "Oh wait he's dead" as if that's a viable insult to a dead person and a reason why their opinion is immensely stupid.

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    Its funny, Martin Luther King had pretty much the same views about capitalism as Malcolm X, but no body ever jumps on him for that. In fact the anti-capitalism of many of the 20th centuries greatest figures is never touched upon. Take for example Ghandi or Nelson Mandella.

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    I condemned JP for saying "Oh wait he's dead" as if that's a viable insult to a dead person and a reason why their opinion is immensely stupid.
    Did you not read his opinion? It' stupid.

    Its funny, Martin Luther King had pretty much the same views about capitalism as Malcolm X, but no body ever jumps on him for that. In fact the anti-capitalism of many of the 20th centuries greatest figures is never touched upon. Take for example Ghandi or Nelson Mandella.
    Don't think i would not disagree with them too. They are just as wrong, especially mandela but... this is Malcolm's thoughts on capitalism.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    End of the topic,at least for me.
    Last edited by republic_bohemia; December 05, 2007 at 02:57 PM.

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    Malcolm's opinion on capitalism was derived from what he was experiencing during his life as an oppressed black. So cant really blame him considering he never felt the good part of capitalism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Malcolm's opinion on capitalism was derived from what he was experiencing during his life as an oppressed black. So cant really blame him considering he never felt the good part of capitalism.
    Who besides the rich really do? But that doesn't mean capitalism sucks , you just have to try harder or be smarter. Telling the poor that its not their fault is
    an easier pill to swallow though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sosobra View Post
    Who besides the rich really do? But that doesn't mean capitalism sucks , you just have to try harder or be smarter. Telling the poor that its not their fault is
    an easier pill to swallow though.
    Your statement is true only in today's equal opportunity America. But Malcolm lived in a 'different world'.


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    I think Malcolm is mixing up capitalism with imperialism and colonialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prophet View Post
    I think Malcolm is mixing up capitalism with imperialism and colonialism.

    Same thing just different stages.

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