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    Default Mamluk Uprising in the Crusades campaign

    Im playing as byzantines and i've just recieved an event message saying that the mamluk slaves are revolting against egypt...i've never actually played this campaign before so my question is what is the uprising? does it just create low public order or do actual rebel mamluk armies spawn and try to take out the egyptians kinda like when the venetians attacked me?

    I wonder if i can exploit this event...
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    Egyptians will receive a full stack of Mamluks, that is Royal Mamluks, Mamluks themselves & Mamluk Archers I believe. Besides them, they will also receive a General,Baybars I think his name is. Shouldnt worry about that. Firethrowers should easiy take care of them.

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    Baybars was awesome.

    He became Sultan of Egypt, after starting off as a Mamluk slave.

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    Yeah, it wont weaken Egypt, only strengthen them. A free stack of Mamluks!

    I was happy anways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Man View Post
    Baybars was awesome.

    He became Sultan of Egypt, after starting off as a Mamluk slave.
    It wasn't actually Baibars who led the uprising (CA got it wrong again ). Him and his followers murdered the original Mamluk leader of the uprising and he became Sultan of Egypt. But yeah, he was truly powerful- he really battered the crusaders; he even captured the legendary hospitaller fortress Krak de Chevaliers which no Islamic leader had ever captured before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insurgent View Post
    he even captured the legendary hospitaller fortress Krak de Chevaliers which no Islamic leader had ever captured before.
    Really? I always believed what my children's history book told me, that it was never taken before the crusaders left it.

    For egypt was only history by the time of the mamluk uprising, it was just a poor stack of rebels getting beaten severely in my campaign.

    The Crusaders Campaigns are really too easy, even on VH/VH. Haven't test the byzantines yet though.
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    double post. don't know how to erase those ones. sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togodumnus View Post
    Baybars was awesome.

    He became Sultan of Egypt, after starting off as a Mamluk slave.
    Babars was actually not awesome he pratically destroied the crusader kingdoms. until the mongols delt with him, hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by madrush View Post
    Babars was actually not awesome he pratically destroied the crusader kingdoms. until the mongols delt with him, hehe
    Baibars was a truly powerful leader. He was pretty much the bane of the crusaders having captured many of their settlements including the legendary Krak de Chevalier after a long siege (as I stated above). He even beat the Mongols and halted their advance into the Middle East.

    But although he was a great leader he was also an evil person. Being a mamluk, slaying thousands of innocent people was nothing to be ashamed of for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insurgent View Post
    Baibars was a truly powerful leader. He was pretty much the bane of the crusaders having captured many of their settlements including the legendary Krak de Chevalier after a long siege (as I stated above). He even beat the Mongols and halted their advance into the Middle East.

    But although he was a great leader he was also an evil person. Being a mamluk, slaying thousands of innocent people was nothing to be ashamed of for him.
    but didnt the mongols defeat him? by my historic knoweldge, the mongols took back palastine and gave it back to the latin crusaders?:hmmm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insurgent View Post
    But although he was a great leader he was also an evil person. Being a mamluk, slaying thousands of innocent people was nothing to be ashamed of for him.
    May i remind you that the crusaders were just as bad, when they first captured jerusalem, they slaughtered thousands of innocent muslims and jews. they did it to virtually every city that they captured. Yes the mamluks did it as well, every army did at that time it was standard military practise, it stopped rebellion, boosted the armies supplies and a got them more funds to carry on the campaign.

    Oh and saying he was evil because he was a mamuk is completely out of order, after all they were defending their homelands, Baibars actually built many mosques, improved harbours and irrigation, he really cared fo his people.

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    Its a big error for the game, in my campaign Saladin is still alive when Baybars appears. But also Alexandria turned rebel in the same turns. It's coincidence or its part of the mamluk uprise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Its a big error for the game, in my campaign Saladin is still alive when Baybars appears. But also Alexandria turned rebel in the same turns. It's coincidence or its part of the mamluk uprise?
    Conincidence. Damn your Saladin was really old!
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    Free mamluks ftw! Its funny how they make Khassaki so much cheaper than the Royal Mamluks, even though they own them

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    My saladin died at 66 or something like that. I was besieging the city in he was (I think that he not moved in all the game) and in Auto-resolve it was impossible to win, despite how many armies you've got near the city. I had to wait until he died, an then it was very easy to take the settlement.

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    Saladin always dies around 60-65 year. And the other generals are never older.
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    Default Re: Mamluk Uprising in the Crusades campaign

    If someone could make princesses available for Islamic factions in Crusades, that would be great because then you could characters like Osman and Baybars into the family and have them or their decendents come to the throne, I did this with William Wallace in Britannia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by persianfan247 View Post
    If someone could make princesses available for Islamic factions in Crusades, that would be great because then you could characters like Osman and Baybars into the family and have them or their decendents come to the throne, I did this with William Wallace in Britannia.
    That just gets them into the family. Also, am I missing something, or can you net set your faction heir in M2TW compated to RTW.

    Also unrelated question: When/how does boiling oil work? I never get boiling oil during sieges. (I also notice walls are incredibly flimsy in M2TW, lol ballistas destroying 10 foot thick walls )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetius View Post
    That just gets them into the family. Also, am I missing something, or can you net set your faction heir in M2TW compated to RTW.

    Also unrelated question: When/how does boiling oil work? I never get boiling oil during sieges. (I also notice walls are incredibly flimsy in M2TW, lol ballistas destroying 10 foot thick walls )
    You could make every else commit suicide and then you have sultan Baybars and Osman. boiling oil always works for me, but one time it was invisible

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    Fortunately, I was able to defeat the Turks just before Osman arrived. When arrives is very powerful?

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