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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    makismus,

    I really want to install this as I have Alexander and am just about to try out EB1.0 itself so why not all in one?

    However I am having trouble understanding the download instructions you gave:

    To play Europa Barbarorum using Alexander expansion you need to install RTW that is 1.5 patched and working and then installed ALEXANDER add-on that is also working (without EB)! Then Install EB + all known fixes for EB and then play it with Alex.exe
    Then:

    For those who just want to COPY- PASTE the uploaded tweaked files (that enable instant game without any manual tweaks) in their EB folders - follow the download link bellow.
    If I want to install this mod can I just follow the instructions up to the end of the first quote? Or must I proceed to the instructions in the second quote as well? In other words, do I need to install the 7zip file if I am doing a straight RTW+BI+Alex+EB1.0 install procedure?

    Thanks, I'm very much looking forward to EB+Alex.
    Last edited by Metellus; February 06, 2008 at 08:30 AM.

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    Icon7 Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Metellus View Post
    makismus,

    I really want to install this as I have Alexander and am just about to try out EB1.0 itself so why not all in one?

    However I am having trouble understanding the download instructions you gave:



    Then:



    If I want to install this mod can I just follow the instructions up to the end of the first quote? Or must I proceed to the instructions in the second quote as well? In other words, do I need to install the 7zip file if I am doing a straight RTW+BI+Alex+EB1.0 install procedure?

    Thanks, I'm very much looking forward to EB+Alex.
    Demokritos is right

    7z file you need AFTER you install one EB that is working... and then you install Alexander and you use the 7z file..

    to be more correct:

    You install EB like anyone else (that means you need installed RTW that is patched with 1,5 patch), then you install Alexander (you dont need BI or 1,6 patch to play acctually) ... but then you ''could'' follow the instructions in manual ''or'' you can just copy paste the data I uploaded (still, you need to change the target line anyway) ...

    If you want to use the beta mod - just download it then and change the target... BUT! there is one official FIX I did not add into the files (because it is over 30 megb heavy ) - the OPIDA fix (you will need to get that one from the EB team official fixes thread)..

    I hope this helps
    Last edited by maksimus; February 06, 2008 at 06:06 PM.
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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Here's what I did. First I installed the Alexander expansion over a working RTW-BI 1.6 copy of the game. Then I installed EB 1.0 (I haven't found any fix to that yet) over the newly created RTW-Alexander copy of the game. Next I installed those tweaked files found in a data folder that was created with the extraction of the 7z package over the EB/data folder. Finally I made the change regarding the target for the EB shortcut to go for the RomeTW-ALX engine. That got things working for me.
    Last edited by Demokritos; February 06, 2008 at 12:56 PM.
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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Just want to clarify here that if you also want to play the Alexander expansion itself some day, then I think you need to install it over a working RTW-BI 1.6 copy of the game.
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    Icon7 Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Actually .. no - I tough so too but it is very clear you need only RTW 1.5 patched

    Still, I have BI and 1.6 patch.. I will use it some day..
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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Thanks guys,

    However this is the part that is still puzzling me:

    Quote Originally Posted by demokritos
    Next I installed those tweaked files found in a data folder that was created with the extraction of the 7z package over the EB/data folder
    Well I downloaded the 7zip file (all 3 download locations have the same file so I figure its an identical file in 3 different places...?), and I have installed normally upto and including Alex.

    Are you saying that the 7zip file extracts to its own Data folder and I must overwrite the EB data folder with this one? If so, then I've got your meaning. Changing the shortcut path shouldn't be too difficult after that

    What is the beta mod, maksimus? Do I need that or can I simply play EB with the Alex EXE without it, making use of all the Alex AI features? Reason is I don't have much bandwidth available for downloads so I must use it wisely.

    Again, can you confirm whether there are 3 7zip files or just the same one in 3 different locations?

    Thanks again guys

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    Icon7 Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Metellus View Post
    Thanks guys,

    However this is the part that is still puzzling me:



    Well I downloaded the 7zip file (all 3 download locations have the same file so I figure its an identical file in 3 different places...?), and I have installed normally upto and including Alex.

    Are you saying that the 7zip file extracts to its own Data folder and I must overwrite the EB data folder with this one? If so, then I've got your meaning. Changing the shortcut path shouldn't be too difficult after that

    What is the beta mod, maksimus? Do I need that or can I simply play EB with the Alex EXE without it, making use of all the Alex AI features? Reason is I don't have much bandwidth available for downloads so I must use it wisely.

    Again, can you confirm whether there are 3 7zip files or just the same one in 3 different locations?

    Thanks again guys
    You don't need beta mod to play EB - and I suggest that you should first play some nice EB vanilla

    And then you maybe you could try Beta Mod..

    Anyways you can see that there are 7z files for ''transition'' to ALX.exe (so you don't need to manually tweak the files = 0,85 mgb), then some Loading screens and music (=~ 33 mbg) and Beta Mod (EAEM =~ 33 mgb)

    Try it out
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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by maksimus
    Can I use any of these 3 files, or must I use all 3? The reason I ask is that they seem to be the same (all have EB\data folders). This is my main question.

    Thanks

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    Icon7 Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Metellus View Post
    Can I use any of these 3 files, or must I use all 3? The reason I ask is that they seem to be the same (all have EB\data folders). This is my main question.

    Thanks
    Оh... nah .. you can use any of those three ! - it's just that some linky or site might be down at some time (and some members from certan countries can't access FileFront for example).. So I uploaded at two locations minding it will be more stable
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    Default Re: The best AI for EB is on ALEX.exe!!!

    ^ Okay great, thanks maks!

    Will give it a try and see. I am particularly looking forward to seeing how well the AI is able to retrain his units. This alone should make for a lot tougher campaign. I think I'll stick with Romans and have a strong starting position :

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    Default Re: ALEXANDER EB

    After I exit the game...some kind of error appeared...it says there about "immortal trait cannot be found"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vassal View Post
    After I exit the game...some kind of error appeared...it says there about "immortal trait cannot be found"
    The trait needs to be in:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    STEP I:
    Edit 3 files
    a) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_character_traits.txt''
    Open the file and add the Immortal description at the end of trait section! That should look like this:


    ;------------------------------------------
    ;Trait: CeasesAmbassador
    ; o Ceases_Ambassador (1):

    Trait CeasesAmbassador
    Characters diplomat
    AntiTraits Ambassador

    Level Ceases_Ambassador
    Description Ceases_Ambassador_desc
    EffectsDescription Ceases_Ambassador_effects_desc
    Threshold 1

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trait Immortal
    Characters family
    Hidden

    Level Immortal
    Description Immortal_desc
    EffectsDescription Immortal_effects_desc
    Threshold 1


    ;------------------------------------------
    ;Mod: EBMod801 - 12/31/05 : trait to make diplomats better when stationed in a settlement for EB 0.7.2.1
    ;===============================================================
    ;Section: == TRIGGER DATA STARTS HERE ==
    ;===============================================================


    Then save!

    Then, In the same folder you should make night_battle trrigers back to use!
    That should look like this!:


    ;------------------------------------------
    ;NIGHT FIGHTING SECTION
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger diet_of_carrots_1
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

    Condition Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
    and IsGeneral
    and Attribute Command >= 4

    Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger diet_of_carrots_2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
    and Attribute Command >= 1
    and IsNightBattle
    and Trait NightBattleCapable = 0
    and WonBattle

    Affects NightBattleCapable 6 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_attacker
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition WasAttacker
    and IsGeneral
    and WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= clear
    and BattleOdds < 2
    and IsNightBattle

    Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger night_battle_crushing_victory_defender
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition not WasAttacker
    and IsGeneral
    and WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= clear
    and BattleOdds < 2
    and IsNightBattle

    Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_attacker
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition WasAttacker
    and IsGeneral
    and not WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= clear
    and BattleOdds >= 0.5
    and IsNightBattle

    Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger night_battle_crushing_loss_defender
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition not WasAttacker
    and IsGeneral
    and not WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= clear
    and BattleOdds >= 0.5
    and IsNightBattle

    Affects Noctophobia 1 Chance 66

    ;------------------------------------------
    ; StrategicSkill shown by bringing bigger battalions
    ;------------------------------------------


    b) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt''
    Open the file and add the specified enums at the far end of the txt file! That should look like this:

    Immortal
    Immortal_desc
    Immortal_effects_desc

    Night_Fighter
    Night_Fighter_desc
    Night_Fighter_effects_desc
    Noctophiliac
    Noctophiliac_desc
    Noctophiliac_effects_desc


    Then save !

    c) Go - ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt''
    And mke sure all of these decriptions are in (be aware many are already in the txt file).. Those that are not in (by my opinion will be 'quoted' blue')
    Here is shown what should be in your ''Rome - Total War folder/eb/data/text\export_VnVs.txt'' folder!


    ¬--------------------

    {Alone_in_the_Dark} Alone in the Dark

    {Alone_in_the_Dark_desc}
    In the dark, there were always strange noises, and as a child this man heard them.

    {Alone_in_the_Dark_effects_desc}
    -1 Command when fighting at night

    ¬--------------------

    {Night_Fighter} Night Fighter

    {Night_Fighter_desc}
    This trait allows a general to fight a battle at night.

    {Night_Fighter_effects_desc}
    +1 Command when fighting at night

    ¬--------------------

    {Night_Terrors} Night Terrors

    {Night_Terrors_desc}
    Darkness is not a friend. Darkness is where bad things happen.

    {Night_Terrors_effects_desc}
    -2 Command when fighting at night, +1 to personal security (improves the chances of detecting and foiling assassination attempts).

    ¬--------------------

    {Noctophobic} Noctophobic

    {Noctophobic_desc}
    Whatever his reasons, this man is terrified by darkness and the long, long hours of the lonely night.

    {Noctophobic_effects_desc}
    -3 Command when fighting at night, +2 to personal security (improves the chances of detecting and foiling assassination attempts).

    ¬--------------------

    {Likes_the_Dark} Likes the Dark

    {Likes_the_Dark_desc}
    In the dark people get scared. But not this man.

    {Likes_the_Dark_effects_desc}
    +1 Command when fighting at night.

    ¬--------------------

    {Night_Owl} Night Owl

    {Night_Owl_desc}
    The cloak of night is a friend to this man. He uses the dark; he is strong in the dark.

    {Night_Owl_effects_desc}
    +2 Command when fighting at night.

    ¬--------------------

    {Noctophiliac} Noctophiliac

    {Noctophiliac_desc}
    Born at midnight, or in love with the moonlight, this man is a real night bird, almost resenting the coming of dawn.

    {Noctophiliac_effects_desc}
    +3 Command when fighting at night.

    {Noctophiliac_gain_desc}
    This man is now seen as an expert when commanding battles at night.

    ¬--------------------

    {Legendary_Hero} Legendary Hero

    {Legendary_Hero_desc}
    Like Horatius, this man's bravery knows no bounds. He is rightly famed among Romans as Aeneas reborn, or even a new Romulus!

    {Legendary_Hero_effects_desc}
    +4 Morale for all troops on the battlefield, +1 Influence

    {Night_Fighter_effects_desc}
    +1 Command when fighting at night

    ¬--------------------

    {Immortal} Immortal

    {Immortal_desc}
    Hidden immortal trait

    {Immortal_effects_desc}
    No Effects


    ¬--------------------
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    Default Re: ALEXANDER EB

    Actually, I download the beta mod. And copy the files to the folders still the error comes out

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    Default Re: ALEXANDER EB

    So the game works? Beta works but you get that error message?

    Anyway, if it works it is ok - still you can see the spoiler thread I just sent in my previous post and manually add the Immortal trait
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    Default Re: ALEXANDER EB

    maksimus,

    I have followed your instructions with the 7zip file and inserted all the data in that file in the correct locations in the EB\data folders. However when I go to the Single Player option and select "EB Main Campaign" I get a message saying "Please select item from list" and the main campaign option screen does not start.

    What am I missing?

    Thanks

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    Icon7 Re: ALEXANDER EB

    I think it may be the *exe prob
    Does your Alexander vanilla workong or not? Try to run just Alexander vanilla
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    ^^ I have added the \Data files you sent to me to my installation (EB\data) and also added the map.rwm file to the correct location (EB\Data\world.....\base) and still I get the same error. I have attached a screenshot:

    http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3...rscreenhi1.jpg

    My Alexander vanilla works fine and goes past this screen to the faction choosing screen no problem.

    My path to RomeTW-ALX.exe is also working fine.

    Anyways hope you can help further otherwise probably I'll have to just stick with basic EB.

    Thanks

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    Icon9 Re: ALEXANDER EB

    I really dont know what it might be..

    Can you run EB with ALX.exe only (with that 0,85mbg file?)?
    Last edited by maksimus; February 11, 2008 at 02:08 PM. Reason: .)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metellus View Post
    It happens if you forget to add "-noalexander" in the program parameters. Have you checked the shortcut?
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    Last edited by AqD; September 20, 2011 at 06:00 AM.

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    Default Re: ALEXANDER EB

    @aqd thank you for that because I am sure it is not a problem with the files I uploaded
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